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by Mali
Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:14 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Big Brown's stud value now
Replies: 54
Views: 12206

I'm not sure anyone believes Winstrol made him a super horse, but I do think it may have had a huge impact on him if he ran most his career with it and then for sake of ego, wasn't given it. In humans, stopping steroid injections causes many side effects, including a huge drop in energy levels and o...
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:20 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Big Brown's stud value now
Replies: 54
Views: 12206

Foggytrip wrote:Having a stallion like Sunday Silence cannot hurt


Absolutely. Fit the Northern Taste mares so well. A cast-off. As was Brian's Time.
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:38 pm
Forum: Racing
Topic: Broodmares ...
Replies: 57
Views: 10992

I have a mare who did race, but was campaigned poorly, found her doing 4f sprints with a pedigree that suggested 1 1/2 miles +++ and grass. Needless to say she never hit the board, but I do not consider her a cheap mare, in fact a lot of horses in her family with similar breeding did very well in s...
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:35 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Big Brown's stud value now
Replies: 54
Views: 12206

The truth is, we started off with lesser stock. We had to breed a superior horse from mostly cast-offs, not unlike that of when breeding stock was shipped in to NA more than a century ago. We bit the bullet, restricted flow of horses in and out, and I think we have a product that can compete anywher...
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:25 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Big Brown's stud value now
Replies: 54
Views: 12206

My racing background is all Japanese. It's why I feel so strongly about the medication rules in the US and why I'm particular about my breeding stock here.
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:45 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Big Brown's stud value now
Replies: 54
Views: 12206

I certainly think his tail-female needs to be mentioned 6 gens and back. Which is why I did mention Simons Shoes, the matriarch of the entire clan. And yes, they've given us some amazing stallions, and I consider them to be one of the top 3 stallion producing families. But, I think its worth mention...
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:48 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Roman Ruler
Replies: 16
Views: 4231

It should be interesting to see what the Limehouse's do. The close inbreeding to Mr. Prospector and then the Northern Dancer behind it, turned me off a bit. I always feel like I'm breeding myself into a genetic "corner" with stallions like this, but he was certainly fast and sound and competitive ov...
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:42 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Big Brown's stud value now
Replies: 54
Views: 12206

Pretty much every thoroughbred of any type of value will have reines in his first 5 generations. The gene pool is so small, that it's not really a sign of class, per se. The tail-female line is much more important, I think most would agree with, than any other female line in a pedigree. As per Big B...
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:27 am
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Big Brown's stud value now
Replies: 54
Views: 12206

I guess we should come up with what constitutes close inbreeding or heavy inbreeding. To me, it's 3x3, its equivalents (2x4) or closer. So I will gladly add Turn-To, In Reality and Broad Brush to the list. Although, I don't consider Broad Brush a breed shaping stallion, I won't diminish his presence...
by Mali
Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:51 am
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Roman Ruler
Replies: 16
Views: 4231

They were allegedly very selective about the physicals for the July sale, so the fact there's 14 bodes well for the overall conformation.
by Mali
Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Any Kudos for Desormeaux from PETA?
Replies: 8
Views: 2236

In all fairness, they condemn the sport in general. I'm not sure why anyone would expect them to comment on pulling the horse up. Their stance is, they shouldn't be on the track to begin with.

Don't agree, obviously, but just saying...
by Mali
Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:13 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Belmont/Big Brown Thoughts
Replies: 37
Views: 7034

The short fields you are concerned about are in direct relation to us breeders producing more fragile, chemically-dependent runners. Stop the chemicals (not just steroids), and the breeding population will have to evolve and go beyond that. It's a cycle that needs to be broken somewhere for it to be...
by Mali
Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:50 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Roman Ruler
Replies: 16
Views: 4231

Saw this after I posted. I don't think you can go wrong with him if the foal has that hip I've been seeing. They have beautiful movement!
by Mali
Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:48 pm
Forum: Stallions
Topic: Roman Ruler
Replies: 16
Views: 4231

It's worth remembering that there's also a lot of them on the ground. He bred really large numbers if I remember correctly. So, from a breed to sell perspective, that might work against a breeder. It's certainly something to keep in mind.
by Mali
Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Belmont/Big Brown Thoughts
Replies: 37
Views: 7034

Bravo, Dray!