See, this is exactly WHY I stopped watching the Derby years ago.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SOME STUPID CELEBRITY OR HIS DUMB GIRLFRIEND'S HAT!!
Are we REALLY that vapid a society anymore that the ONLY thing these dumbasses think is important is who came to the Derby and what they are wearing? We have tabloid TV shows for that crap, why does it have to infiltrate Derby coverage.
Screw this. I'm going to watch a movie and set my alarm to go off a minute before the post. I can't take these stupid celebrity photo ops and the BS emotional claptrap stories they think we all need to hear about.
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Ah see this is why I am basically avoiding it til after ESPN's coverage ends... That guy Phil Laak starts to say he was going for a hunch on "Tioga" and I started to gag so I changed the channel. And I love Jennifer Tilly having scoop on Curlin from sitting with the jockey the night before at dinner or wherever. Nobody else knows about it Jennifer...hurry! Hit the window!
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Sam wrote:See, this is exactly WHY I stopped watching the Derby years ago.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SOME STUPID CELEBRITY OR HIS DUMB GIRLFRIEND'S HAT!!
Are we REALLY that vapid a society anymore that the ONLY thing these dumbasses think is important is who came to the Derby and what they are wearing? We have tabloid TV shows for that crap, why does it have to infiltrate Derby coverage.
Screw this. I'm going to watch a movie and set my alarm to go off a minute before the post. I can't take these stupid celebrity photo ops and the BS emotional claptrap stories they think we all need to hear about.
That's why I went grocery shopping and got home in time to watch the race!!!
A horse gallops with his lungs
Perseveres with his heart
And wins with his character. --Tesio
Perseveres with his heart
And wins with his character. --Tesio
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Sam wrote:See, this is exactly WHY I stopped watching the Derby years ago.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SOME STUPID CELEBRITY OR HIS DUMB GIRLFRIEND'S HAT!!
THANK YOU! I was yelling at the TV half the time... esp. when they were loading the horses... I wanted to see them up close before going in. I don't care to see the stoic, serious faces of the trainers & owners... it's about the horses at that point! Sheesh...!
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Well, I missed it entirely. My brand new Tinner's Way colt had to be turned out with mom and stalls cleaned, etc. He is only about 3 days old so of course I can hardly take my eyes off him. Also, because he is magnificent. A really well put together baby. He is built like Secretariat.
With regard to the coverage...
I am really glad HRH the Queen showed up. She's been on the throne for decades and into horse racing longer. I think this is her first Kentucky Derby. Anything the Queen of England does in America becomes fashionable, so maybe it will give horseracing a much needed shot in the arm.
As far as the hats are concerned, the tradition of covering the hats at the Kentucky Derby has existed for nearly as long as the Derby itself. It's part of the whole Derby experience and I'm glad the sportscasters have finally realized that the hats at the Derby are part of the tradition. The fact that they have almost never noticed the hats before just shows the reporters knew nothing about the Kentucky Derby. Because they did not know about it, most people today have never even heard about it, but it used to be a big deal.
If people are looking for rags to riches stories, overcoming adversity, or struggling hard with the heart of a champion against all odds to win, horseracing is not that kind of sport. It is a pageant for the rich and always has been, since the Kings and Princes (who were originally the only people allowed to own horses) began racing their steeds. It's never really been about the horses, with the possible exception of Secretariat. Even though he was owned by wealthy TB breeders of long standing, he really was the focus of the whole show that year and the celebs had to take a back seat to the coverage of the horse.
If people wanted racing to be more about the horses than about the money and fame their owners possess, they would have to do more than get slots. They would have to restructure purses so that all the trainers and owners interested in racing up could actually feed their horses and keep racing, even if they weren't rich, to find out which horses were actually faster, more durable, and more competetive by nature.
That idea has been described as socialist. Some people think I'm a liberal. I'm not a liberal. I'm a conservative, but I'm a realist, and I know that if all the money stays at the top of any industry, competition is limited. It works for the high end, and they are the ones running the show. Without trickle down, the whole idea of racing to see who has the faster horse is interrupted. Money doesn't buy fast, as many a wealthy owner has found out. Money buys good jockeys, high quality feed, entries for stakes, and any necessary vet work when the horse needs it, not just when the owner can afford it.
I'm only bringing this up because people were complaining about celebs at the Kentucky Derby. When Seabiscuit came out, I didn't hear anyone complaining about Bing Crosby and Charles Howard's son being partners in competition against Howard's personal stable. Or complaining that Jimmy Stewart and all the other stars turned out for the Hundred Grander. Or that Samuel Riddle owned War Admiral, as well as Man O'War.
So, while it may be grating to see all the stars and royalty and oil company executives turn out for the Kentucky Derby, remember that it's their industry. They have always owned it. And if they want to revive the Kentucky Derby hat tradition, I guess they can. They're the ones with the money to buy those expensive hats. Of course, most of them probably got that money right out our pockets with the high oil prices, but at least maybe now, the Kentucky Derby can redeem it's integrity as an important event in American sports.
I believe people like the pageant of the rich at the Kentucky Derby and that's why they keep it that way. If all horsemen wanted to be able to break into that level of racing, they would have banded together by now and done something to make the sport more competetive. Since they never have, I'm guessing they like the way the show is being run.
That's just my observations and probably not worth reading. I will say that the Breeder's Cup changes have made me think that horseracing will get more competetive over the course of time, and some genuine Cinderella stories may start popping up.
But for everyone who didn't enjoy the coverage, thanks, I'm not so unhappy to have missed it after all.
With regard to the coverage...
I am really glad HRH the Queen showed up. She's been on the throne for decades and into horse racing longer. I think this is her first Kentucky Derby. Anything the Queen of England does in America becomes fashionable, so maybe it will give horseracing a much needed shot in the arm.
As far as the hats are concerned, the tradition of covering the hats at the Kentucky Derby has existed for nearly as long as the Derby itself. It's part of the whole Derby experience and I'm glad the sportscasters have finally realized that the hats at the Derby are part of the tradition. The fact that they have almost never noticed the hats before just shows the reporters knew nothing about the Kentucky Derby. Because they did not know about it, most people today have never even heard about it, but it used to be a big deal.
If people are looking for rags to riches stories, overcoming adversity, or struggling hard with the heart of a champion against all odds to win, horseracing is not that kind of sport. It is a pageant for the rich and always has been, since the Kings and Princes (who were originally the only people allowed to own horses) began racing their steeds. It's never really been about the horses, with the possible exception of Secretariat. Even though he was owned by wealthy TB breeders of long standing, he really was the focus of the whole show that year and the celebs had to take a back seat to the coverage of the horse.
If people wanted racing to be more about the horses than about the money and fame their owners possess, they would have to do more than get slots. They would have to restructure purses so that all the trainers and owners interested in racing up could actually feed their horses and keep racing, even if they weren't rich, to find out which horses were actually faster, more durable, and more competetive by nature.
That idea has been described as socialist. Some people think I'm a liberal. I'm not a liberal. I'm a conservative, but I'm a realist, and I know that if all the money stays at the top of any industry, competition is limited. It works for the high end, and they are the ones running the show. Without trickle down, the whole idea of racing to see who has the faster horse is interrupted. Money doesn't buy fast, as many a wealthy owner has found out. Money buys good jockeys, high quality feed, entries for stakes, and any necessary vet work when the horse needs it, not just when the owner can afford it.
I'm only bringing this up because people were complaining about celebs at the Kentucky Derby. When Seabiscuit came out, I didn't hear anyone complaining about Bing Crosby and Charles Howard's son being partners in competition against Howard's personal stable. Or complaining that Jimmy Stewart and all the other stars turned out for the Hundred Grander. Or that Samuel Riddle owned War Admiral, as well as Man O'War.
So, while it may be grating to see all the stars and royalty and oil company executives turn out for the Kentucky Derby, remember that it's their industry. They have always owned it. And if they want to revive the Kentucky Derby hat tradition, I guess they can. They're the ones with the money to buy those expensive hats. Of course, most of them probably got that money right out our pockets with the high oil prices, but at least maybe now, the Kentucky Derby can redeem it's integrity as an important event in American sports.
I believe people like the pageant of the rich at the Kentucky Derby and that's why they keep it that way. If all horsemen wanted to be able to break into that level of racing, they would have banded together by now and done something to make the sport more competetive. Since they never have, I'm guessing they like the way the show is being run.
That's just my observations and probably not worth reading. I will say that the Breeder's Cup changes have made me think that horseracing will get more competetive over the course of time, and some genuine Cinderella stories may start popping up.
But for everyone who didn't enjoy the coverage, thanks, I'm not so unhappy to have missed it after all.
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Sam wrote:See, this is exactly WHY I stopped watching the Derby years ago.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SOME STUPID CELEBRITY OR HIS DUMB GIRLFRIEND'S HAT!!
ME NEITHER!
Thanks Sam, I couldn't have said it better myself. It seems they show horses less each year.
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Toccet02 wrote:Sam wrote:See, this is exactly WHY I stopped watching the Derby years ago.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SOME STUPID CELEBRITY OR HIS DUMB GIRLFRIEND'S HAT!!
ME NEITHER!
Thanks Sam, I couldn't have said it better myself. It seems they show horses less each year.
SERIOUSLY!
Since when is there a "red carpet" at the Derby? This isn't the damned Oscars or Emmys or whatevers. No one is suppose to care about a bunch of stupid-ass celebrities looking for a photo op (or, in some celebs cases, the fact that their handlers and contracts make them obligated to BE there to be seen and promote their show -- why do you think those people from Heroes were there? It's NBC's big breakout hit and it's in their contract to be at some major NBC-aired functions).
IF there is to be a red carpet at the Derby, the ONLY celebrities that should walk on it are the HORSES!
I missed it as one of our mares broke her water at 5:10. So I was helping the newborn learn to stand and nurse when Street Sense did his thing. (The filly is doing great, BTW.)
One of the things that bothered me about the races is they never give the name of the mare. How the hell many mares have I foaled, and not known their children were in the races? If you are going to cover the horse, cover all of it, not just the stallion and the owner. Sheesh.
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Maybe having the Queen of England there will counter some of the Barbaro Effect, which seems to have us not tracking the big races at all. I know I'm a victim.
Bobby was a splendid example of equine stamina and stewardship; we should not back away because of the media coverage.
Now I'm going to check on my little girl and hit the sack.
It has been a good day. A very good day. (And I didn't lose any money because I didn't bet any.
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One of the things that bothered me about the races is they never give the name of the mare. How the hell many mares have I foaled, and not known their children were in the races? If you are going to cover the horse, cover all of it, not just the stallion and the owner. Sheesh.
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Maybe having the Queen of England there will counter some of the Barbaro Effect, which seems to have us not tracking the big races at all. I know I'm a victim.
Bobby was a splendid example of equine stamina and stewardship; we should not back away because of the media coverage.
Now I'm going to check on my little girl and hit the sack.
It has been a good day. A very good day. (And I didn't lose any money because I didn't bet any.
)And thou fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse. - The Qur'an