just went to look at this guy the other day. he's no bay to me put you know the jockey club LOL
http://www.doublellfarms.com/stagecb.html
looks like a buckskin
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i picked this up from another site describing basic color patterns
DUN Duns have black skin with an evenly distributed coat color and a black mane and tail, similar to bay coloring. The coat color can range from a pale yellowish color to the color of a dirty canvas. Dun horses usually have a dorsal stripe down their backs and some have stripes on their forearms. The lighter shades are called buckskin.
BAY A bay horse can be any shade of brown (which is a mixture of red and yellow), with points such as tail, mane, muzzle and lower legs being black. The brown can range from a light, almost tan or chestnut to a dark, seal color.
The horse picture you were questioning to me looks bay just a lighter bay then is normally associated with being bay.
DUN Duns have black skin with an evenly distributed coat color and a black mane and tail, similar to bay coloring. The coat color can range from a pale yellowish color to the color of a dirty canvas. Dun horses usually have a dorsal stripe down their backs and some have stripes on their forearms. The lighter shades are called buckskin.
BAY A bay horse can be any shade of brown (which is a mixture of red and yellow), with points such as tail, mane, muzzle and lower legs being black. The brown can range from a light, almost tan or chestnut to a dark, seal color.
The horse picture you were questioning to me looks bay just a lighter bay then is normally associated with being bay.
If we're talking strictly about the photos from the site...
... as graphic designer who is an expert with Photoshop and color correction (sorry, not trying to brag!
)- if you look, all the horses are on the same background. So each "real" photo was taken at a different time, location, etc.
If you look at his photo specifically, it appears to me that his picture was taken on an overcast day or in the shade- his coat doesn't have any highlights from the sun, as do the other stallions. Shooter's photo looks about the same- very soft, not a lot of highlights.
Plus, Dome and Sandia Slew look pure black, not the dark bay they're registered as...
... so I'm willing to bet that the "odd" colorations were created more by the person who enhanced the images.
If he looks exactly like his photo, I'd still say he's a lighter bay... especially if he's outside a lot... my horse is a bay who is very dark after he loses his winter coat, and lightens up quite a few shades in the summertime...
... as graphic designer who is an expert with Photoshop and color correction (sorry, not trying to brag!
If you look at his photo specifically, it appears to me that his picture was taken on an overcast day or in the shade- his coat doesn't have any highlights from the sun, as do the other stallions. Shooter's photo looks about the same- very soft, not a lot of highlights.
Plus, Dome and Sandia Slew look pure black, not the dark bay they're registered as...
... so I'm willing to bet that the "odd" colorations were created more by the person who enhanced the images.
If he looks exactly like his photo, I'd still say he's a lighter bay... especially if he's outside a lot... my horse is a bay who is very dark after he loses his winter coat, and lightens up quite a few shades in the summertime...
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Skeenan is right - incredibly bad retouching is at fault. Look at the fake shadows Robyn Dancer and Stagecoach are casting, and Shooter appears to have something wrong with his gaskin area - or did someone just do a very bad masking job on the photo?
Notice that some of the photos are signed - if I were the photographer my lawyer would be writing a letter to this farm, and if I were considering breeding to them, I would sure want to see the stallions in person before signing a contract. I am not sure about the ethics of doctoring stallion photos (I worked in the fashion/beauty retouching industry for a number of years - where seemingly anything goes) but I am puzzled as to why a farm would post photos that are so OBVIOUSLY faked.
Notice that some of the photos are signed - if I were the photographer my lawyer would be writing a letter to this farm, and if I were considering breeding to them, I would sure want to see the stallions in person before signing a contract. I am not sure about the ethics of doctoring stallion photos (I worked in the fashion/beauty retouching industry for a number of years - where seemingly anything goes) but I am puzzled as to why a farm would post photos that are so OBVIOUSLY faked.
Bay or Dun?
My mare has been registered bay. Her coat is generally a lighter ( alomst chestnut) brown and I dont think that she has stripes on her legs (they're just plain black). However, she has a very pronounces dorsal stripe. Does this mean that she could have been registered as a dun or does the fact that she is so dark mean that she's just a bay?? Thanks for the help ... Juliet 
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Juliet,
I'm not sure of the JC's way of registering color. I can say that the AQHA registers a Dun first. For example you can have a Paly Dun, Buckskin Dun, Red Dun and the only thing your AQHA papers will say is "DUN'. When in fact with a paly dun you have a red factor horse with the Creme and Dun genes.
The AQHA also registers chestnut and sorrel seperately even though they are genetically the same. hrm....perplexing these registrys
I'm not sure of the JC's way of registering color. I can say that the AQHA registers a Dun first. For example you can have a Paly Dun, Buckskin Dun, Red Dun and the only thing your AQHA papers will say is "DUN'. When in fact with a paly dun you have a red factor horse with the Creme and Dun genes.
The AQHA also registers chestnut and sorrel seperately even though they are genetically the same. hrm....perplexing these registrys
