looks like a buckskin

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looks like a buckskin

Postby brooke » Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:51 pm

just went to look at this guy the other day. he's no bay to me put you know the jockey club LOL
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Postby sulphurfire » Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:58 pm

i picked this up from another site describing basic color patterns

DUN Duns have black skin with an evenly distributed coat color and a black mane and tail, similar to bay coloring. The coat color can range from a pale yellowish color to the color of a dirty canvas. Dun horses usually have a dorsal stripe down their backs and some have stripes on their forearms. The lighter shades are called buckskin.

BAY A bay horse can be any shade of brown (which is a mixture of red and yellow), with points such as tail, mane, muzzle and lower legs being black. The brown can range from a light, almost tan or chestnut to a dark, seal color.

The horse picture you were questioning to me looks bay just a lighter bay then is normally associated with being bay.

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Postby Sam » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:02 pm

"Sandy Bay" ... he's bay, just on the lighter side.

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Postby ZiaLand » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:18 pm

Brooke, did you take a look at Robyn Dancer while you were at LL? If so, what was your impression of him?

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Postby skeenan » Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:52 pm

If we're talking strictly about the photos from the site...

... as graphic designer who is an expert with Photoshop and color correction (sorry, not trying to brag! :oops: )- if you look, all the horses are on the same background. So each "real" photo was taken at a different time, location, etc.

If you look at his photo specifically, it appears to me that his picture was taken on an overcast day or in the shade- his coat doesn't have any highlights from the sun, as do the other stallions. Shooter's photo looks about the same- very soft, not a lot of highlights.

Plus, Dome and Sandia Slew look pure black, not the dark bay they're registered as...

... so I'm willing to bet that the "odd" colorations were created more by the person who enhanced the images.

If he looks exactly like his photo, I'd still say he's a lighter bay... especially if he's outside a lot... my horse is a bay who is very dark after he loses his winter coat, and lightens up quite a few shades in the summertime...

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Postby henthorn » Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:11 pm

Stagecoach sure is a looker, but unless my eyes are deceiving me, that grass is too green, and his legs are blue-purple. Someone either enhanced the colors or is using some sort of filter.
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Postby nferro9925 » Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:38 pm

He is a gorgeous horse. He is vey well put together.

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Postby brooke » Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:44 pm

hey zia

i didnt get to see Robyn Dancer, or a couple other of the new studs that day but im going back next weekend and ill take a look see on them and ill try to take some of my own pics. but i sure did like stagecoach just beautful!
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Postby ZiaLand » Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:13 pm

Thanks, Brooke. Let me know what you think of him. I heard he has a nasty temperament, but he does seem to produce some runners.

Hadn't heard about Stagecoach. Is he a QH or a TB?

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Postby brooke » Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:27 pm

Check him out in the data base Zia he's by Storm cat and so handsome lol
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Postby monicabee » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:08 am

Skeenan is right - incredibly bad retouching is at fault. Look at the fake shadows Robyn Dancer and Stagecoach are casting, and Shooter appears to have something wrong with his gaskin area - or did someone just do a very bad masking job on the photo?

Notice that some of the photos are signed - if I were the photographer my lawyer would be writing a letter to this farm, and if I were considering breeding to them, I would sure want to see the stallions in person before signing a contract. I am not sure about the ethics of doctoring stallion photos (I worked in the fashion/beauty retouching industry for a number of years - where seemingly anything goes) but I am puzzled as to why a farm would post photos that are so OBVIOUSLY faked.

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Postby Nancy T » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:31 am

Allot of true black are registered as drk brn/bay.

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Bay or Dun?

Postby juliet » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:49 am

My mare has been registered bay. Her coat is generally a lighter ( alomst chestnut) brown and I dont think that she has stripes on her legs (they're just plain black). However, she has a very pronounces dorsal stripe. Does this mean that she could have been registered as a dun or does the fact that she is so dark mean that she's just a bay?? Thanks for the help ... Juliet :D

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Postby Jorge » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:23 am

STAGECOACH is by Storm Cat the very same sire who sired INDIGO CAT.

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Postby southcitytan » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:29 pm

Juliet,
I'm not sure of the JC's way of registering color. I can say that the AQHA registers a Dun first. For example you can have a Paly Dun, Buckskin Dun, Red Dun and the only thing your AQHA papers will say is "DUN'. When in fact with a paly dun you have a red factor horse with the Creme and Dun genes.
The AQHA also registers chestnut and sorrel seperately even though they are genetically the same. hrm....perplexing these registrys ;)