Galtee Farm LLC , Midway, Kentucky

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Postby citabria » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:28 pm

zinn21 wrote:Why would someone create these false realities that rarely last more than a few days? Do they think the truth will fail to surface or is the lure of revenge so great-they are helpless in controlling their fantasies?

Is there a therapist in the house?


Actually I stopped responding because of the many requests for this subject to drop. And if one recalls, I only wanted informed people to contact me I certainly didn't expect a debate in the process.

And if I did talk I wanted to temper my words.

How does one find truth?


#1: Please do a full criminal background investigation on those whom you leave your horses with.
Make sure it is felony and misdemeanor.
Normal criminal background checks extend a minimum of 7 years. You can do city, county, or several counties and you can request a search that isn't limited to a 7 year period.

PULL THOSE RECORDS

#2: Take the time to research the civil records. How many times has this person or facility been in a courthouse and what for?

If you find that they have their toothbrush and bathrobe sat in the courthouse you may want to think about the situation seriously.

If they have court cases one atop another with people from California to Florida you may be buying a ticket on the maiden voyage of the Titanic by moving your horses there. Can you swim?

PULL THOSE RECORDS

#3: Arrest records.

If you are able to please PULL THOSE RECORDS Very important to try and get those arrest records.


#4: Client references

Don't go on what you are given. Get on the phone and start doing some serious research.

Lastly. If you get into litigation. No matter how long it drags on, no matter how many games are played, no matter how frustrated and upset you may be... I beg you..

Please do NOT allow anyone to give you a settlement with a court ordered GAG attached to it.

It hurts those who follow, it makes it so hard to speak openly. It takes truth and it sweeps it under the carpet so that innocents walk ontop not knowing what is happening right under their feet.

Please, I beg. No gag orders. Fight unto the end, go public, do anything legally and morally within your power - but don't sign a gag order as part of a settlement.

~God Bless~

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Postby geowarrior » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:33 pm

Our Pedigree Query Board is a talented lot - so I bet you there is a therapist.


HELP!!

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Postby madelyn » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:21 pm

foothillsequine wrote:.....I will also take the $130,000.00, the horses AND provide them with exemplary care! :lol:


63 horses, at $130K, is approximately $2,063 per horse. November to April is 6 months, so that breaks down to $344 per month per horse. You would be very hard pressed to manage on that if you did all the work yourself, let alone hiring. That is not taking into account this year's horrible hay prices. It has no allowance for fence damage, bedding, labor, etc.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

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Postby ratherrapid » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:40 pm

citabria--when u post alleging animal neglect or abuse there'll be questions. you have convinced me personally that your motivation is sincere. but, the farm has confronted your allegations directly, and you and your owner are thus far without response. seems pretty simple--was it the whole herd, or the one horse., and as to the one horse, what is the name of the horse in the photo so that we may verify that it came out of the tx. sale. the picture is other than slander. someone has been responsible for the condition of the horse.

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Postby Crystal » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:25 am

I have found just word of mouth from the horse community has been better then any criminal record I could ever pull.. But still, you wouldn't put your kids in day care with terrorist, why do it to your horses.

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Postby citabria » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:25 pm

ratherrapid wrote:citabria--when u post alleging animal neglect or abuse there'll be questions. you have convinced me personally that your motivation is sincere. but, the farm has confronted your allegations directly, and you and your owner are thus far without response. seems pretty simple--was it the whole herd, or the one horse., and as to the one horse, what is the name of the horse in the photo so that we may verify that it came out of the tx. sale. the picture is other than slander. someone has been responsible for the condition of the horse.


It is my understanding that the other horses may not have stayed at this facility as long as the first bay mare.

From the owner:

This mare arrived the last week of February, and the first photo was taken at that time. The after photo is taken on April 1.
See photo's below.

Given these dates this particular mare arrived exactly 30 days after the mare I posted in photo #2.

I am not going to directly respond to anyone from Galtee, nor can I name the horses, because this situation has NOT YET gone to court. Again I repeat. This situation IS PENDING LITIGATION and if anyone say's otherwise they are not telling you the truth.
(Though I did have a chuckle - the response gave me the first smile I have had since this whole mess started)

I came to this forum to make contacts because I had been told that this was NOT an isolated case - those contacts were made. More than I ever expected. I am pretty shocked. No, I'm mortified. This is way beyond sad.

Again, I did not come to debate or try a case in the court of public opinion. I came to make contacts.

This is my last post. I will reiterate what I said previously. PLEASE do criminal and civil background checks. INCLUDING arrest records.

And please, do not sign a court ordered "gag order" as part of a settlement.

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The only thing needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing - Isn't that the truth!

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~Denise~

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Postby Worksoplad » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:01 pm

Citabrai, you may or not be a Brit, and from my web name you can see I am a Brit, but methinks there is something rotten in the State of Denmark.

Your (second hand) story keeps changing by the minute and you have now made two vague references to advising people to make criminal searches etc.

Well I say, Put up or Shut up.
"Who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, but he who destroys a good book kills reason itself." John Milton.

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Postby springboro » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:53 am

the mare above is a lil ribby, but certainly not starved. With a foal on her, I'm not horrified. Thoroughbreds are known for being hard keepers.

You get absolutely no support from me. Again, if you're going to come onto this board, play nice and post other horsey related items and leave your grudge at home.

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Postby Nancy T » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:54 am

I have a lot of scepticism when someone makes charges who has by her own admission.
A. Never been to the farm
B. Never seen the horses in question
C. Won't name the owner
D. Is taking up this issue for the nameless owner and rather than taking it through the court system is spreading it all over the Internet (google Galtee Farms) and see what comes up.
E. Posts pictures of nameless horses, frankly those photos could be from anywhere.

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Postby Sysonby » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:29 am

Criminal background checks? Are you for real? You're talking about hiring someone to care for your horse, not the comptroller of your company. How about the way most of us do it--good old word of mouth from horsemen we respect.

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Postby geowarrior » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:11 am

Now we're implying criminal records? I said it before and I'm saying it again, this whole thing is either bogus or it should be fought out in courts and not on this forum. I'm far more ticked by the content of this thread than that of many others that have been locked a lot sooner, not to mention posters that have been censured far more heavily than the accuser in this case.

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Postby Sock Monkey » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:03 am

Sysonby wrote:Criminal background checks? Are you for real? You're talking about hiring someone to care for your horse, not the comptroller of your company. How about the way most of us do it--good old word of mouth from horsemen we respect.


Exactly!

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Postby Sock Monkey » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:05 am

Sysonby wrote:Criminal background checks? Are you for real? You're talking about hiring someone to care for your horse, not the comptroller of your company. How about the way most of us do it--good old word of mouth from horsemen we respect.


Exactly!

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Postby citabria » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:43 pm

just an update regarding the mare who's photograph was posted in April, she had been starved at Galtee farms. Secret had only 3 previous foals, and was quite young. She was able to carry her foal to term, and even able to raise it for a short time; however due to the extreme emaciation and starvation, it taxed her body. she did colic and we were unable to save her. so sad..for a mare that had so much heart and will to live. Her colt is doing well, so hopefully her legacy will live on. will continue to post updates and information on the law suit. thank so many people for coming forward and sharing their bad experiences with farm.