Who will be Ca. NEW FRSHMAN SIRE for 2006 ?

[Nijinsky]

Pick in order your top 3...and if you want explain why.

Faculty, dark bay or brown, 1994, by Known Fact--Arewehavingfunyet, by Sham. Winner of two races, $26,750. Standing at Solar View Raceland. Fee: $7,500.

High Demand, bay, 1997, by Danzig--Jasmina, by *Forli. Allowance winner of $182,120. Standing at Golden Eagle Farm. Fee: $5,000.

Lost in Paradise, chestnut, 1997, by Shuailaan--Lost Silver, by Lost Code. Stakes winner of $200,900. Standing at Rancho Santa Rosa. Fee: $1,500.

Persian Turban (Ire), bay, 1999, by Sadler's Wells--Charming Tiara, by Alydar. Unraced. Standing at Daehling Ranch. Fee: $1,250.

Raise Suzeran, chestnut, 1994, by Woodman--Syntanous, by Danzig. Stakes winner in Japan of $2,863,424. Standing at Oak Hill Farm. Fee: $2,500.

Richly Blended, bay, 1998, by Rizzi--Valid Blend, by Valid Appeal. Grade 3 stakes winner of $323,280. Standing at West 12 Ranch. Fee: $4,000.

Skimming, bay, 1996, by Nureyev--Skimble, by Lyphard. Grade 1 stakes winner of $2,286,601. Standing at Cardiff Stud Farm. Fee: $7,500.

Sought After, bay, 2000, by Seeking the Gold--Smolensk, by Danzig. Unraced. Standing at Daehling Ranch. Fee: $2,500.

Tannersmyman, bay, 1998, by Lord Carson--Stanley's Girl, by Deputy Minister. Stakes winner of $99,500. Standing at Woodbridge Farm. Fee: $1,000.

Tribal Rule, bay, 1996, by Storm Cat--Sown, by Grenfall. Allowance winner of $77,600. Standing at River Edge Farm. Fee: $5,000.

Unbridled's Love, gray/roan, 1998, by Unbridled's Song--Love Avie, by Lord Avie. Unplaced in one start, $200. Standing at Schock Ranch. Fee: $2,000.

[Sysonby]

It has to be either Skimming or Tribal Rule unless one of the others steps up and has a Breeders Cup winner. They both have 60 or more foals--everyone else is 30 foals or below.

My guess? Tribal Rule, then Skimming and then Richly Blended.

[austique]

I'm gonna go with Skimming who probably saw some nice mares due to his race record and excellent pedigree. Height didn't stop his daddy or granddaddy from being good sires.

I'd pick High Demand second. People have said some nice things about his foals.

Lastly Trible Rule. He's the lone Storm Cat on the list (hey, how'd you Californians do that ) and I'm imagining he got some good support just due to that and he's a half to one of my faves Key Phrase.

[BJ]

I'm gonna go with Skimming who probably saw some nice mares due to his race record and excellent pedigree. Height didn't stop his daddy or granddaddy from being good sires.

I'd pick High Demand second. People have said some nice things about his foals.

Lastly Trible Rule. He's the lone Storm Cat on the list (hey, how'd you Californians do that ) and I'm imagining he got some good support just due to that and he's a half to one of my faves Key Phrase.

Ditto!

I've heard tell that Tribal Rule definitely got some good support. Have seen some of his yearlings. Good looking. It will be *interesting*, to say the least, to watch who does the most with what they got to work with.

[ef]

Tribal Rule was an absolutely brilliant racehorse. Unfortunately, he was also extremely fragile. If his babies can keep it together soundness-wise, he should do well.

[Nijinsky]

SKIMMING #1.... since he has bred consistantly over 90 mares and will be well supported. He was a speed horse who could carry it at a distance and most of the foals look speedy, at least the ones I have seen...we have one comming and will be breeding another mare back to him.


RICHLY BLENDED #2....again he and his family full of speed...especially at 2. He has consistantly bred 40 to 55 mares, mostly by his owners who again should be supporting him.....just sent a mare off to him the other day...tried last year but she wouldn't take. I have seen many of his foals. VERY NICE !
GREAT BONE, correct, quarter horse looking, big BUTTS and great temperment Speed, Speed, Speed,

#3 not sure either HIGH DEMAND or TRIBLE RULE....both have been bred to lots of mares both will be well supported also. Not sure about either passing on early speed...may produce late maturers, from looking at their race records and family.

[TomFool]

Trible Rule by a whole lot. He was a very talented & fast racehorse & in being by Storm Cat & half to a G1 winner & 3/4 to the fastest sprinting son of SC so far in Yankee Gentlemen (who has gotton off to a super start at the sales) he has the pedigree. If I lived in Cal I would breed every mare I owned to either him or Benchmark.

[Heidilady]

I'll give y'all another way to rank these stallions. Who's likely to produce the soundest individuals on the whole? Nijinsky pointed out great bone for Richly Blended I noticed. Based on the pedigrees and the stallions themselves (and any offspring you might've seen) who's gonna throw the soundest progeny?

[George William Smith]

My GRA predictive program [first part of GRASP, without the Stud Performance], says it will be Skimming. Tribal Rule gets very little speed points because it took him until age 5. Lots of colts if they stayed racing would have been able to run the 1:08.80 he did.

[BJ]

Trible Rule by a whole lot. He was a very talented & fast racehorse & in being by Storm Cat & half to a G1 winner & 3/4 to the fastest sprinting son of SC so far in Yankee Gentlemen (who has gotton off to a super start at the sales) he has the pedigree. If I lived in Cal I would breed every mare I owned to either him or Benchmark.

Both have serious soundness questions that need to be considered when breeding "every mare you own" to them.

[Nijinsky]

Trible Rule by a whole lot. He was a very talented & fast racehorse

Come on more talented and faster than SKIMMING or RICHLY BLENDED

[Nijinsky]

BENCHMARK and his siblings...not sure soundness is a problem

TRIBAL RULE IS ANOTHER STORY but so it goes with sons of Storm Cat

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BENCHMARK and his siblings........

WINTERS' LOVE, 1982, Danzig- Cold Hearted by The Axe 2nd.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI

1987 Syrian Winter,Dkbbr,f,Damascus 2 15 1 2 4 51,950 ( 95) 2.89

1989 Hope For Gold,B,c,Ogygian 4 " 36 " 5 6 7 93,591 ( 99) 2.06

1990 Traverse Bay,B,c,Alydar 4 " 21 " 2 0 3 15,555 ( 90) 0.56


1991 BENCHMARK,B,c,Alydar 5 " 16 " 7 2 4 636,707 (105) 28.61


1993 Fruition,Ch,c,Woodman 3 10 3 1 3 69,380 ( 99) 3.72


1994 King Crimson,B,c,Capote 6 " 28 " 3 3 3 112,291 ( 96) 2.22

1995 TRANQUILITY LAKE,B,f,Rahy 4 " 27 " 11 7 3 1,662,390 (105) 29.94

1996 King Of Tap,B,c,Pleasant Tap 5 " 33 " 4 4 1 62,790 ( 93) 0.87

1997 Kerry Gold,B,f,Private Terms 1 4 0 1 1 7,390 ( 76) 0.73

1999 Campaigner,Dkbbr,c,Gulch 4 " 36 " 4 5 2 52,415 ( 87) 0.66

2000 High Dunx,Ch,c,Gulch Unraced
DP = 11-8-13-0-0 DI = 3.92 CD = 0.94

2002 All Deuces Wild,B,f,Rahy Unraced

BENCHMARKS DAM.......


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COLD HEARTED, 1974, The Axe 2nd- Turn To North by *Turn-To.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI

1979 DEW LINE,B,c,Cannonade 5 " 43 " 8 9 6 413,748 10.72

1980 CAVEAT,Dkbbr,c,Cannonade 2 " 21 " 6 6 4 542,190 25.12
Kentucky Derby -G1 (250,000)

1981 Dearest Heart,Dkbbr,f,Smarten 1 7 0 0 0 1,020 0.13
DP = 10-6-3-1-0 DI = 7.00 CD = 1.25

1982 Winters' Love,B,f,Danzig 1 10 1 0 5 48,911 4.16

1983 Canadian Winter,Dkbbr,c,L'enjoleur 6 " 80 " 13 14 7 175,747 ( 93) 2.33

1984 Desert Chill,Ch,f,Damascus 1 4 0 0 0 2,700 0.53
1985 Barren

1986 Desert Beauty,B,f,Damascus Unraced
DP = 8-14-11-1-0 DI = 4.23 CD = 0.85

1987 BALTIC CHILL,B,f,Danzig 3 " 23 " 5 4 3 213,637 (102) 8.21

1989 Hazm,Dkbbr,c,Danzig
IN UNITED KINGDOM 2 10 3 2 1 25,766
IN FRANCE 1 1 0 0 0 0

1990 Desert Of Ice,B,c,Alysheba 3 " 18 " 2 1 2 20,285 ( 83) 0.81


1991 Gold Hearted,Ch,f,Mr. Prospector Unraced 1992 Cool Canyon,B,g,Gulch 5 " 49 " 2 11 1 20,389 ( 82) 0.26

1994 Coldheartedcat,Dkbbr,f,Storm Cat 2 12 3 2 0 55,069 ( 94) 2.37

[ef]

In my opinion, yeah, he was more talented and faster than those two. Did you ever see him run? He could FLY. His connections thought he could win the BC Sprint. So, was he more talented and faster? I think so. But was he as accomplished? Certainly not.

Trible Rule by a whole lot. He was a very talented & fast racehorse

Come on more talented and faster than SKIMMING or RICHLY BLENDED

[Nijinsky]

No I never saw him run.....I don't deny he had speed 1:08 4/5 by 8 lengths and 1:09 by 5. But he didn't start till he was 4 and only one start at that.....with 4 starts total. NOT SOUND and like BJ said soundness is going to be an issue with this guy his whole family is unsound, not only with Storm Cat but his dam side.

TRIBAL RULE and siblings.....

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SOWN, 1983, Grenfall- Bad Seed by Stevward.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1989 Case Study,B,g,Never Tabled 3 18 5 4 1 89,820 (100) 3.73


1991 KEY PHRASE,Ch,f,Flying Paster 2 " 6 " 5 0 1 233,299 (103) 27.29

1992 Unnamed,f,Moscow Ballet
DP = 3-3-10-7-1 DI = 0.85 CD = 0.00

1993 Model Customer,B,f,Never Tabled Unraced
DP = 9-6-5-7-1 DI = 1.67 CD = 0.54

1996 Tribal Rule,B,c,Storm Cat 3 " 4 " 2 2 0 77,600 (105) 9.27

1997 Common Hope,Dkbbr,f,Storm Cat 2 " 5 " 1 1 0 40,220 ( 89) 3.17

1999 Winterberry,Dkbbr,f,Storm Cat 1 " 3 " 0 0 0 1,920 ( 77) 0.23

2000 Noble Idea,B,f,Deputy Minister Unraced
DP = 2-1-6-2-1 DI = 1.00 CD = 0.09

2002 Encouragement,Dkbbr,f,Bertrando Unraced

DAM and her siblings.....

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BAD SEED, 1969, Stevward- *Rich And Rare 2nd by =Rockefella (Gb).
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI

1975 PIRATE'S BOUNTY,Dkbbr,c,Hoist The Flag 2 15 4 3 4 95,984 8.46

1976 Able To Reason,Dkbbr,c,Bold Reason 1 " 1 " 0 0 1 1,200 1.57

1978 Bold Offshoot,Dkbbr,c,Bold Hitter Unraced

1981 Top Seeded,Dkbbr,g,Gummo 2 " 13 " 1 1 3 16,995 1.33

1982 Demon Seed,Ch,c,Gummo 1 " 4 " 0 0 1 6,175 1.37

1983 Sown,Ch,f,Grenfall 1 " 3 " 2 0 0 24,750 8.14

1984 Seed Case,Dkbbr,f,Never Tabled 1 " 5 " 0 0 1 5,425 1.05

1986 Table Flower,Dkbbr,f,Never Tabled Unraced

1987 Deciduous,Dkbbr,f,Never Tabled Unraced

1991 Piradawn,Dkbbr,f,Never Tabled 1 " 1 " 0 0 1 1,200 ( 59) 0.85

[Nijinsky]

Anyone understand why this ones stud fee is so high?

Faculty, dark bay or brown, 1994, by Known Fact--Arewehavingfunyet, by Sham. Winner of two races, $26,750. Standing at Solar View Raceland. Fee: $7,500.