Common denominator in producing SW's

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Sam
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Postby Sam » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:28 pm

Winnie wrote:You know very well I have done pretty darn good so far in this business, my stats which were listed on another thread prove that.

Which thread would that be? I suppose I could have missed it, but I don't recall any thread on this forum listing your stats, certainly none that could be verified as you never did bother listing horses you've bred by name, only some vague numbers of what you sold and you never did adjust those numbers as I asked you to.

Btw, how's the orphan foal?

Winnie wrote:At least I have never in my life been in debt or owed a sole money. I am known for my integrity :wink:

I think my BS detector just exploded.

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Postby Winnie » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:49 pm

:roll:

I am waiting for Michaels answer on how many stakes horses he has produced in 50 years of being in the business?

He wants us to listen to his advice...yet I have yet to see how well he has done...any quality horses that Siberian Summer has produced were NOT out of any of his mares LOL

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Postby Sam » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:07 pm

Winnie wrote::roll:

I am waiting for Michaels answer on how many stakes horses he has produced in 50 years of being in the business?

He wants us to listen to his advice...yet I have yet to see how well he has done...any quality horses that Siberian Summer has produced were NOT out of any of his mares LOL

What does any of that have to do with the question I asked?

I am genuinely asking for the title of or link to the thread in which your stats as a breeder are listed (and not the one about how you made $5k per horse in breeder awards on horses who averaged $12k in the sales ring -- that's including the horse you didn't plan the breeding on or pay a stud fee for. If you bought the mare because she was in foal to a specific stallion, then HER purchase price is essentially the stud fee).

Have you been acknowledged anywhere as a leading breeder?

I am also genuinely asking about the welfare of your orphan foal.

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Postby Winnie » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:11 pm

You are officially being ignored :roll:

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Postby Sam » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:21 pm

Winnie wrote:You are officially being ignored :roll:

*head shake* If I were "being ignored" you wouldn't have felt the need to post. That's called begging for attention. "Officially"? What the heck does that mean, anyway.

Why won't you answer a legitimate question? Two actually. Any reason you won't update us on the welfare of your orphan foal?

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Postby Winnie » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:31 pm

Nice try Michael :roll: The statistics above on Ca. Stakes Winners (not sires) alone prove there is something to what I say. I didn't pick any horses at random, I didn't choose horses from a state where they are quality bred.

You know very well I have done pretty darn good so far in this business, my stats which were listed on another thread prove that. I have produced a few quality allowances winners (from a handfull of starters), one who could have easily been a Stakes horse if it wasn't for a trainer who worked him just a few days before....bullet works each time before his 2 stakes races. And I have done extremely well in the sale ring and through private sales. For someone who has been doing this all his life, how long did it take you to get a quality runner? A lot longer than it took me I'm sure.

At least I have never in my life been in debt or owed a soul money. I am known for my integrity :wink: If you can play this game/business and be able to do that and come out ahead, even if it means NEVER producing a stakes winner...you are doing good.

By the way how many Graded stakes horses have you produced...or stakes winners for that matter?

I don't need to prove anything to you or anyone...those statistics above speak for themselves. What do I care if people want to throw their money away and breed poor quality stock...better competition for me (although I hate to see their offspring end up at the killers) If just one person can learn like I did to upgrade their mares and choose better sires, then I am happy I have at least helped someone.


still waiting Michael :)

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Postby Winnie » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:39 am

bump