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preggo mare?
Recheck...although if not an old mare it should be obvious. In an old mare (and someone I know had the same thing happen w/ an old mare) that had a lot of foals in the past the uterus has sunk lower than it should have been so it got missed. That was about 5 mos along. Sadly she did abort at about 9 mos. so perhaps was also not as well delevoped as it should have been. The friend w/ the mare in the same boat: Mare was due in early March. That was to be her first foal of the year....but since she was "not preggo" they decided to go on a quick vacation before the rest of the foals and breeding season got rolling. Her horsie sitter called her to say "Ummm...there is one extra head in the field this morning." she had foaled out just fine out in the pasture. OTOH I had the fat mare that looked preggo and I was actually surprised when she came up empty on a recheck. Vet said "nope...just fat!". One I sold in foal w/ a LFG vetted not in foal a later check with her new owner. The lady wanted a foal by that stallion so was just going to get her bred back to that stallion the following spring.....but on a spring re-check to rebreed? YUP! Still preggo after all! .
.For the first time ever, I started having trouble with preganancies, when I sent 2 mares out to be bred; one was last year, and one appears to have somehow lost her fetus without me having noticed 'anything.' I was certain that she was pregnant earlier. How could I tell without having either one of them ultrasounded or checked? Well, MY expereince over many years has been that at five months, you can obseve or feel fetal movement; this is how I found out that one of my mares which was exposed to my own stallion, was pregnant [surprise, lol]
Two of my mares were bred at a breeding farm June 3rd and June 7 03. One was a maiden. Both were announced in foal shortly after breeding and sent home 'bred.' I didn't see either mare until Christmas, and while I understood that maiden mares often don't show early, my first impression of this mare was that she was not prego. There simply is that 'prego look' in the abdomen area close to the back legs; a little plumpness/fullness that wasn't there with this mare.
Unfortunately, my suspicion was correct, but when I moved them back home, I decided that there was no point in having her checked as I would find out for sure soon. I spent at least 20 minutes each day to observe each mare; one showed distinct fetal movements frequently; nothing whatsoever with the other one, even when I kept my hand on various places on her abdomen while she was eating. Often, movement can be observed for sure when they drink water, for some reason. In late January, she was coming into early season. The other one had a nice baby May 1st. Both mares were trucked long distances twice before coming home again.
This year, it appears to be the other way around, lol. The open mare is going to have a baby very soon, but she was bred here at home to my own stallion, so now I know there is nothing wrong with her, although perfectly healthy mares can occasionally absorb or even abort, but it just never happened to me when they were bred here at home, and I had to make sure before wasting tons of money again.
The other one was definitely pregnant by a stallion away from home. I was sure I saw fetal movement early on, but about a month ago, I dewormed everybody and after that, this mare looked suddenly 'not pregnant' to me, and I KNOW, she somehow lost her fetus, but there were absolutely NO signs, no discharge, nothing, so I'm puzzled at this point. In addition, her attitude seemed to have changed from being more mellow and less bossy with the other horses to being more active again and bossing everybody around. Also, MY experience in my herd situation over the years has been that mares wean their babies on their own earlier when prego again, some as early as five months.
A few days last year, I had my doubts with this mare as well, but then I saw fetal movement again, and so my doubt was immediately dispelled. The live foal guarantee demands veterinarian certification, so I will have to have her checked out. Otherwise, I would just wait until she starts to cycle again and go from there.
SB
Two of my mares were bred at a breeding farm June 3rd and June 7 03. One was a maiden. Both were announced in foal shortly after breeding and sent home 'bred.' I didn't see either mare until Christmas, and while I understood that maiden mares often don't show early, my first impression of this mare was that she was not prego. There simply is that 'prego look' in the abdomen area close to the back legs; a little plumpness/fullness that wasn't there with this mare.
Unfortunately, my suspicion was correct, but when I moved them back home, I decided that there was no point in having her checked as I would find out for sure soon. I spent at least 20 minutes each day to observe each mare; one showed distinct fetal movements frequently; nothing whatsoever with the other one, even when I kept my hand on various places on her abdomen while she was eating. Often, movement can be observed for sure when they drink water, for some reason. In late January, she was coming into early season. The other one had a nice baby May 1st. Both mares were trucked long distances twice before coming home again.
This year, it appears to be the other way around, lol. The open mare is going to have a baby very soon, but she was bred here at home to my own stallion, so now I know there is nothing wrong with her, although perfectly healthy mares can occasionally absorb or even abort, but it just never happened to me when they were bred here at home, and I had to make sure before wasting tons of money again.
The other one was definitely pregnant by a stallion away from home. I was sure I saw fetal movement early on, but about a month ago, I dewormed everybody and after that, this mare looked suddenly 'not pregnant' to me, and I KNOW, she somehow lost her fetus, but there were absolutely NO signs, no discharge, nothing, so I'm puzzled at this point. In addition, her attitude seemed to have changed from being more mellow and less bossy with the other horses to being more active again and bossing everybody around. Also, MY experience in my herd situation over the years has been that mares wean their babies on their own earlier when prego again, some as early as five months.
A few days last year, I had my doubts with this mare as well, but then I saw fetal movement again, and so my doubt was immediately dispelled. The live foal guarantee demands veterinarian certification, so I will have to have her checked out. Otherwise, I would just wait until she starts to cycle again and go from there.
SB
preggo mare?
I really hate to say it, but I had a lot of trouble with local veterinarians misdiagnosing things around here.
Several years ago, I needed to check some of my mares out to see who was prego and who was not. I had a vet out who claimed to be very experienced palpate the mares I wasn't sure were prego or not at a time during the year when mares were still cycling. Well, he announced one of my mares five months in foal, but she kept cycling. Vet said that some mares will do that, and that I shouldn't worry about it, but that wasn't good enough for me. I summoned him up again and this time, he told me that the mare was open; that he obviously had made a mistake and that, if she had aborted at five months, I should have definitely noticed some discharge and or found the fetus as at five months, they are about as large as a rabbit. The only bad thing about this was that I could have bred the mare back as it was still early enough and since sportshorses don't have to be born all that early.
What you need to know to understand the account below:
I had 2 stallions and a gelding, all of which were part of my herd of which almost all were born here. Because of this, the younger stallion was tolerated by the herd stallion and there was never a problem, but it was time to sell the younger one, cause , most unfortunately, he didn't want to drop his testicles permanantly.
Early last year, same thing with another vet. I had little hope that the above young stallion would be able to impregnante this mare, but upon checking her by manual palpation, vet said she was definitely pregnant and further along than what I had thought. She came up empty, but I have no way of proving that she didn't abort with the exception that there were-again- no signs whatsoever and no reason either as the mare had two problem free pregnancies prior to this.
Very tragically, the stallion died in a freak accident three days after I had sold him and he was moved to his new home. It broke my heart as he was a fantastic jumper prospect from a great US TB jumper line that's fast disappearing. Also, he was a big, good looking horse with the kindest of dispositions. Never been sick in the five years I owned him [bred him].
A week or so later, a foal was born out of a mare that was exposed to two diffferent stallions. But one look told me that this baby was by this stallion as the blaze is almost identical. He had finally managed to get one in foal. Ironically, this mare 'belonged' to her younger half-brother, an Appendix gelding who is the Alfa horse and also thinks he's a stud, lol., and who would never allow any stallion to get close to her..... guess this time, he didn't take this youngster seriously, or he lost control over his 'woman,' lol. I was both surprised and amused when I saw the baby, and it's a pretty nice one. He will be gelded before long and offered for sale as a hunter/jumper sportshorse prospect. He's a lovely yearling now.
SB
Several years ago, I needed to check some of my mares out to see who was prego and who was not. I had a vet out who claimed to be very experienced palpate the mares I wasn't sure were prego or not at a time during the year when mares were still cycling. Well, he announced one of my mares five months in foal, but she kept cycling. Vet said that some mares will do that, and that I shouldn't worry about it, but that wasn't good enough for me. I summoned him up again and this time, he told me that the mare was open; that he obviously had made a mistake and that, if she had aborted at five months, I should have definitely noticed some discharge and or found the fetus as at five months, they are about as large as a rabbit. The only bad thing about this was that I could have bred the mare back as it was still early enough and since sportshorses don't have to be born all that early.
What you need to know to understand the account below:
I had 2 stallions and a gelding, all of which were part of my herd of which almost all were born here. Because of this, the younger stallion was tolerated by the herd stallion and there was never a problem, but it was time to sell the younger one, cause , most unfortunately, he didn't want to drop his testicles permanantly.
Early last year, same thing with another vet. I had little hope that the above young stallion would be able to impregnante this mare, but upon checking her by manual palpation, vet said she was definitely pregnant and further along than what I had thought. She came up empty, but I have no way of proving that she didn't abort with the exception that there were-again- no signs whatsoever and no reason either as the mare had two problem free pregnancies prior to this.
Very tragically, the stallion died in a freak accident three days after I had sold him and he was moved to his new home. It broke my heart as he was a fantastic jumper prospect from a great US TB jumper line that's fast disappearing. Also, he was a big, good looking horse with the kindest of dispositions. Never been sick in the five years I owned him [bred him].
A week or so later, a foal was born out of a mare that was exposed to two diffferent stallions. But one look told me that this baby was by this stallion as the blaze is almost identical. He had finally managed to get one in foal. Ironically, this mare 'belonged' to her younger half-brother, an Appendix gelding who is the Alfa horse and also thinks he's a stud, lol., and who would never allow any stallion to get close to her..... guess this time, he didn't take this youngster seriously, or he lost control over his 'woman,' lol. I was both surprised and amused when I saw the baby, and it's a pretty nice one. He will be gelded before long and offered for sale as a hunter/jumper sportshorse prospect. He's a lovely yearling now.
SB
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