The males Rachel beat this year are a sad, sad lot !!!

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Postby dray33 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:05 pm

Looks like the West Coast Zenyatta engine is shifting into overdrive trying to convince us all of her right to HOY honors. Now they rename the Lady's Secret:

Oak Tree Honors Zenyatta With Grade I Race

The Oak Tree Racing Association has announced that the undefeated superstar mare Zenyatta, last-to-first winner of the Nov. 7 Breeders’ Cup Classic (gr. I) at Santa Anita, will be honored by having the name of the race she won in both 2008 and 2009, the Lady’s Secret (gr. I) renamed The Zenyatta, effective next year.

“When the history books are written, we feel that what Zenyatta accomplished here Nov. 7 will go down as one of the all-time great achievements in American racing,” said Sherwood Chillingworth, Oak Tree’s director and executive vice president, in a release.

Lady’s Secret was a great mare herself. She won the (Breeders’ Cup) Distaff (gr. I) here in 1986 and went on to be named Horse of the Year, but what Zenyatta did here against the best horses in the world is something none of us who witnessed it will ever forget.

Unbelievable! Unforgivable. :evil: Where do you weigh in on this one FOS? Love to hear. Maybe they forgot Lady's Secret HOY campaign? For those of you who forgot, here's JUST THE LAST 3 MONTHS of her HOY campaign, where she won SEVEN grade 1's... 3 against males.

Santa Anita 11/01/86 Race 5 Breeders' Cup Distaff - Gr.1
Belmont Park 10/12/86 Race 8 Beldame Stakes - Gr.1
Belmont Park 9/21/86 Race 8 Ruffian Handicap - Gr.1
Belmont Park 9/06/86 Race 8 Maskette Stakes - Gr.1
Belmont Park 8/30/86 Race 8 Woodward Stakes - Gr.1
Monmouth Park 8/16/86 Race 9 Philip H. Iselin Handicap - Gr.1
Saratoga 8/02/86 Race 8 Whitney Handicap - Gr.1

Zenyatta deserves her own Grade 1 race, named after just her. Not taken from arguable one of the greatest fillys of all time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady%27s_Secret

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Postby pfrsue » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:33 am

I'm not getting into the middle of the RA vs. Zenyatta debate, but I agree with Dray that renaming the Lady's Secret was just plain wrong. If they'd renamed it the Rachel Alexandra, it still would have been just plain wrong.

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Postby diomed » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:27 am

I totally agree that the Lady's Secret should NOT have been named for Zenyatta.
That is a slap in the face of a great race mare. Shame.
Zenyatta should have had another race named in her honor. There were plenty to choose from.
WTF?
I am angered by this. :x

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Postby Kari » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:09 am

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????!!!???? :evil: We need to get a petition going on this one. Ridiculous!

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Postby Fireslam » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:22 am

I emailed the Oak Tree Association, to their Executive Office, and expressed my displeasure. Maybe others should do that, too.

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Postby winds » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:25 am

I don't think they thought this through at all. Why not make another stake race with Z's name attached instead of taking away from Lady's Secret?

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Postby JimbleBrimble » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:35 am

dray33 wrote:
Whereas he made some remarks about my inaccuracies (there weren't any)




dray33 wrote:Fact:
• Rachel Alexandra gave us eight races on eight different racetracks...



I think everyone can begin to understand dray33's clueless rants more easily once they reconcile what he sees as "fact(s)".


Hey, there is cause for rejoicing:

Somebody from the Preakness field won an optional $25K claimer in the slop at Laurel.


That brings the entire number of subsequent fast-track wins by any male Rachel Alexandra beat this year... to one. (at Charles Town)


Rachel Alexandra didn't face anybody who had a season even comparable to that of Life Is Sweet, and Zenyatta flat-out dominated her this year.

It really can't be that difficult...

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Postby dray33 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:02 am

JimbleBrimble wrote:Rachel Alexandra didn't face anybody who had a season even comparable to that of Life Is Sweet, and Zenyatta flat-out dominated her this year.


Rachel Alexandra won 8 different races on 7 different tracks, quite the blunder! That's fact. Zenyatta's "killer" competition in a couple of her races included the Allowance winner Allicansayis Wow, is that the horse you're talking about? or was it Modification, the winner of the Allowance Optional Claimer?

Zenyatta fans NEVER talk about or compare campaigns (why would you, 5 races, much against the same average competition), or Zenyatta not racing at all till May of '09, or her limited 5 race schedule, the class of competition, the synthetic surface preference, the fact that she faced only 2 G1 winners before the BC, or that she only ran one race outside of California, or the scratch because of mud on the track in Kentucky, or barely beating lesser rivals (of course it must be because she wasn't trying in those races), the low speed figures, you know, all the stuff that makes up the traits and character of a fighter, a Champion, a "Horse of the Year". To compare the two horses for HOY is an insult to RA.

There are only 3 points ever brought up by Team Zenyatta. Endlessly, it's the Breeders Cup Classic with Rachel not running, the undefeated thing (although Rachel is undefeated in '09 too) and something about the competition being harder for Zenyatta. It's laughable.

I guess the Breeders Cup race was so super-splendiferous, they should rename the Kentucky Derby "The Zen", the Preakness "The Yat" and the Belmont "The Ta". That way, instead of saying the "Triple Crown", we can call it "The Zenyatta". And we should rename starting gates at all the tracks "Zenyatta-gates". All tracks should be renamed named Zenyatta ______________ (original name of track). Like "Zenyatta Monmouth" or "Zenyatta Hollywood Park". Bets should be called "Zenzactas" and "Zenfectas" too, like "Hey, I won the 3-1-8 Zenfecta!"

It's over. RA deserves, and will win the HOY, as logic dictates.

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Postby dray33 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:20 am

JimbleBrimble wrote:Rachel Alexandra didn't face anybody who had a season even comparable to that of Life Is Sweet.


THIS is the horse you're using to prop up your opinion? Come on. True, Life is Sweet at least raced 8 times, like a real horse, I'll give you that.

This is the same Life is Sweet that couldn't win much on the east coast, switched over to turf from dirt after an 8th place finish and found she ran better on the turf, broke her maiden, and won an allowance and then RAN to California to race on the synthetics? The same Life is Sweet that came in fourth in the C Hirsch and Lady's Secret before winning the Lady's Classic.... oh wait, I get it now. The one race again. Mix into that something about "fast tracks" and wins, and TV Guides and TV, and that one race must make her better than all the competition RA faced, according to your logic.

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Postby dray33 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:01 am

Again, said better than I:

Written by John Pricci
http://www.horseraceinsider.com/blog.ph ... -zenyatta/

Friday, November 27, 2009

“Shhhhh, Do You Want to Know a Zenyatta?”

SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY, November 27, 2009--The electioneering that the Oak Tree Racing Association is doing on behalf of the Zenyatta for Horse of the Year campaign is obvious and a little unworthy of what‘s ultimately at stake.

When it was announced about a week ago that Santa Anita was going to be giving Zenyatta at Santa Anita Park, I thought it a great idea, worthy of a perfectly great filly of singular accomplishment.

It was also timely, before being sent home to be bred. She earned this recognition the old fashioned way; between the fences.

In my view, it was certainly more appropriate than the award given her recently by the Turf Publicists of America, a hosanna to the people in the sport who were generous of spirit, giving their time in service to the game and by making themselves and their horses available for promotional opportunity.

But I must admit, in the language of the Internet, I did an LOL when I considered that Team Zenyatta were given an award called the “Big Sport of Turfdom.”

Yes, the Mosses and the Shirreffs were always available in service to the industry without equivocation. But when I think “Big Sport,” I think it should mean what that means. To me, the meaning traditionally reserved for that kind of nomenclature is when people accept big challenges in the name of sport.

But what was sporting about taking a path of the least resistance possible, a four-race campaign in which she beat 22 of mostly-the-same rivals, essentially public workouts for pay, even if her entire year was predicated on, and culminated with, an unforgettable career finale on a non-dirt surface?

The only reason Zenyatta raced in the Classic was because it was her only chance to catch a three-year-old rival she never met, one that compiled what appeared to many as an insurmountable lead in the quest for Horse of the Year honors.


And if the early polling on this site is any measure, the decision to run in, and win, the Breeders’ Cup Classic might prove the winning gambit after all.

But in terms of the rest of her Horse of the Year “season,” it was a campaign devoid of meaningful challenges. No points are scored for shipping to Churchill Downs for her season’s debut only to scratch when the Louisville dirt came up a sea of slop.

As I recall, Zenyatta’s connections began making scratch noises days before the race and, at some point, had she remained in the East, she might have found a dry surface to race on, like the dirt surface over which she was so impressive at Oaklawn Park in 2008.

It that context, Zenyatta retires as a one-dirt wonder. Ultimately, however, Team Zenyatta earns a pass as no one truly knows what motivation people have when they do the things they do. But neither does it allow for having things both ways.

So, then, what’s my beef? It’s this week’s press release from the Oak Tree Racing Association which reads, in part:

“In the wake of what many consider to be the most dramatic performance in Breeders' Cup history, the Oak Tree Racing Association has announced that the undefeated superstar mare Zenyatta, a devastating last-to-first winner of the million Breeders' Cup Classic (G1) on November 7, will be honored by having the name of the race she won in both 2008 and 2009, the Lady's Secret S. (G1), renamed the Zenyatta, effective next year. The Lady's Secret, which was inaugurated in 1993, is for fillies and mares and run at 1 1 1/16 miles.

"When the history books are written, we feel that what Zenyatta accomplished here on November 7 will go down as one of the all-time great achievements in American racing," Oak Tree Director and Executive Vice President Sherwood Chillingworth said.

"Lady's Secret was a great mare herself. She won the (Breeders' Cup) Distaff (G1) here in 1986 and went on to be named Horse of the Year but what Zenyatta did here against the best horses in the world is something none of us who witnessed it will ever forget.

"At first, Jerry [owner Moss] was reluctant to accept our offer of renaming the race because he was a personal friend of Gene Klein, [Lady’s Secret’s owner]" Chillingworth added.

"But after he and Ann thought about it for a couple of days, he called back and said they thought Zenyatta would be flattered by the comparison and to know that she was held in such high esteem."

I can remember two decades ago when the New York Racing Association, capable of being as overzealous as the next racing jurisdiction, in the heyday of Easy Goer vs. Sunday Silence (in alphabetical order, please note) it never electioneered as Oak Tree did so zealously this week.

“Most dramatic,” “superstar,” “devastating” in the first 32 words of the release--and that’s including articles.

"It is particularly appropriate,” Chillingworth continued, “in that she won the Lady's Secret two years in a row, and like Lady's Secret, we feel strongly that Zenyatta should be Horse of the Year. Her brilliance is undeniable and we are proud to rename this prestigious race in her honor..."

It’s not so much that an aspiring Horse of the Year should replace the honored memory of another great filly who already had earned the ultimate prize, that was tacky enough.

But it’s timing, with Eclipse ballots about a week away from distribution, appears a very thinly veiled attempt to keep the Zenyatta brand in the minds of Eclipse voters, perhaps hoping to sway the fence-sitters.
The great filly that was shunted aside this week was the 1986 Horse of the Year. Six years later she was in the Hall of Fame. A winner of 25 of 45 career starts, she finished worse than second only 11 times. In her Horse of the Year season she won EIGHT Grade 1s and defeated males FOUR times.

Fourteen-for-fourteen is, as previously stated, a singular achievement. But it doesn’t earn you the title “The Iron Lady.”

If the intent truly was to honor the mare at the site of her greatest triumphs, Oak Tree could have consulted with the Los Angeles Turf Club, perhaps co-sponsoring a race in Zenyatta’s memory at the winter-spring meeting since only one G1 for fillies and mares is available in non-Breeders‘ Cup years.

Renaming the G1 Santa Maria Handicap would have meant just as much for her fans. That race is run under the same conditions as the Lady’s Secret. Another option might have been to change the distance of seven furlong G1 Santa Monica which also might have required an adjustment to the stakes calendar.

If you didn’t want to take that tack, given the political or business considerations, Oak Tree at least might have waited until Horse of the Year voting was closed.

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Postby Nancy T » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:32 pm

Dray I agree with you 100%

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Postby AscotStud » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:15 pm

Rachel Alexandra didn't face anybody who had a season even comparable to that of Life Is Sweet,


Seriously!!! you are misguided, keep making your Zenyatta for President signs and not actually learning about racing. Rachel would destroy Life is Sweet and the rest of horses she faced this year...including Zenyatta.
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Postby AscotStud » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:20 pm

I hit a killer Zenyacta today!!!
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Postby dray33 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:42 pm

Almost hit the Zenfecta!

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Postby dray33 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:26 am

On a different note I have to say the move by Oak Tree to rename the Lady's Secret was bad enough, but the press release surrounding the event was extremely unprofessional and misguided. This takes nothing away from Zenyatta... it's humans getting in the way, again. For a race track to come out in favor of a horse, any horse, for Horse of The Year honors in a public statement... sets a bad precedence. What's next, altering the track surface to better suit the running style of one horse or another? NOT the place for tracks to weigh in. It's just bizarre.