Texas Thoroughbred Association Stallion Season Auction

[jellac]

FYI - The Texas Thoroughbred Association is currently conducting it's annual Stallion Seasons Auction on-line .

ONLY 6 more days to go on the current seasons offered. Discounted seasons to Valid Expectations, Dove Hunt, Time Bandit sold during the prior offering at prices that reflected competitive bidding. A few of the currently offered seasons already have a bid at their minimum (protection bids?) but many are without any bids at this point.

Here is the link.

http://www.texasthoroughbred.com/TTA/De ... ?TabID=159

Several decent stallions have donated seasons listed at good discounts over their published stud fees -

Aggie Southpaw - (take a look at this stallion, he's done quite a lot from very small initial crops),

Aggressive Chief - (a good bet for a solid runner - full brother to Open Forum),

Magic Cat -(so far is off to a good start from few to race);

Open Forum - (a good producer of 2YO performers/winners) ,

Hadif - (consistently a producer of 2YO runners/winners. Not a bad stallion for breeding to race for the Tx Stallion Stakes Series, the Sales Futurities with the possible upsisde of producing a commercial juvenile for the F-T Texas 2YO In Training Sale);

Naevus - (A solid producer of versatile (turf or dirt, short or long) hardknocking runners/winners and frequently enough a SW to be a good bet for the breed to race mare owner. Also a good very bet for producing sabino offspring with the right mare. Double registered as a Paint and with the JCA.);

Deputed Duke - (An interesting possibility for an owner/breeder to race wanting to aim for the performance horse sector with the possibility of producing a thoroughbred they might race themselves. A very handsome horse that stamps his get with size and balance, has done well on the show circuit and has a pedigree that might well produce a good runner with the right mare.)

Also among the offerings -

Milwaukee Brew, Olmodavor, Polish Navy, Wekiva Springs;

[jellac]

I should add that the TTA uses the money recieved from this auction for it's PAC's efforts to get SLOTS approved by the State Legislature.

I just took a look at the Sunland Park (in New Mexico, but within a few miles of El Paso, Tx) Online Condition Book and have to say that Slots OBVIOUSLY do much to make horse racing a viable endeavor for the breed to race owner/trainer. With these sorts of purses can a commercial market for thoughtfully and well bred foals be that far behind?

[ageecee]

Isnt Time Bandit in Louisiana?

[ZiaLand]

Jellac, thanks for posting that website. I wasn't aware of this sale. Good information to have.

Laurie

[Waternymph]

Hey guys,

Maybe this is a very stupid question...but TB-s semens can be shipped to Europe like frozen semen?

[rocking e]

jellac aggressive chief is 1/2 to open forum

[madelyn]

Waternymph, at this time the Jockey Club prohibits artificial insemination, so while TB semen could be collected and shipped, any foals produced from it would not be able to be registered as Thoroughbreds.

[Waternymph]

Thanks for the info...I believe that in some cases insemination helps, and this is not a bad idea. We are doing it in Europe and it works. I know that everybody is trying to protect their interest but like in everything there is a good side and a bad side of it..
Do you think is it possible that in the future will be legal the insemination with TB-s also?

[jellac]

ageecee - Time Bandit is in Louisiana, but a donated season to him was auctioned off in the early portion, similar to the other out of state offerings I see listed here, including stallions standing in Kentucky and Florida. (I see a number of Adena stallion seasons being offered here - all with the stated minimum already bid.)

rocking e - You are absolutely correct and I thank you for proof reading my post! Aggressive Chief IS a HALF BROTHER - NOT a full bro to Open Forum....(Memo to self: Stay off the 'puter in wee hours of the morning!)

Caveat to all who are interested in bidding - Be sure you check the details of the donated season offered - several, but not all, were no guarantee seasons. Shouldn't be a problem for most of these guys but I'd sure want to know that I was taking a fertile mare to a fertile stallion if that was the case with a season I successfully bid upon. You might also call ahead of bidding to the farm in question and get their mare care rates and of course if not familiar with the farm/managers make your assessments aforehand. (A great thing to do over this weekend and the first few days of next if you're taking the week off for Thanksgiving!)

[madelyn]

Re the AI question, there was a long, drawn out discussion of Artificial Insemination on this board a while back; I do not believe it will be something the Jockey Club will accept any time soon (ie: years). Nor will they approve embryo transfer.

[henthorn]

Today is the final day for bids on the TTA online auction. There are only ten minimum bids so far on sixty-six stallion seasons for 2005. Most are no live foal guarantee , but some nice ones have LFG . Most are Texas studs, but a few are from Louisiana, Florida, and several from Kentucky . The monies go to help provide legislative clout for getting slot machines to support Texas purses . Bidding process couldn't be easier, and deadline is 5pm CST today, November 22. www.texasthoroughbred.com. I am bidding on Authenticate, an unraced second year stallion by Gone West ex Lakeway , who looks to be a good match for Reigning Glory at a very good price.
Please don't outbid me, I need all the help I can get.

[henthorn]

Auction just ended with a duel between the same two bidders for no- guarantee seasons on Olmodavor and Sligo Bay that went into overtime. Smith outbid Zoellner on both. There were many that got no bid or minimum bid only . I was the only bidder on Authenticate for live foal guarantee, at half the usual stud fee . According to the APR, he sold for 3.3 million as a yearling and his older stakes-winning half-sister Sluice sold for 1.5 mil as a yearling. Let's hope he's the real deal and the genetics of Reigning Glory is better than her speed.

[Michael]

Early Flyer might have been the sleeper of the group. He was a very precocious and fast horse in California who beat some pretty good horses, too. He got lost somewhere for a few years and turned up in Texas long after his star dimmed, but if he receives enough good mare, I think he might surprise some people. His sire, Gilded Time, is not yet a proven sire of sires, but the damline is fairly prominent. $1500 isn't much for a horse of his caliber, IMO.

[ZiaLand]

I was really tempted to bid on Sligo Bay due to some comments made on this board by Bill and Mahubah about the possible cross with one of my mares. Decided against bidding...but really had to twist my own arm. What did Sligo Bay end up getting for a top bid?

Laurie

[henthorn]

Minimum bids for both Olmodavor and Sligo Bay started at $5000 no guarantee (usual is $10K LFG.) They went for $6500 each to the same party. The underbidder got nothing.