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By what date doyou have to namea twoyear old by

Postby tofutti » Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:29 am

I'm going to be the offical owner of two two year olds early next year does anybody know the date when I need to have the names submitted to the Jockey Club by?

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Postby madelyn » Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:17 pm

According to the Rule Book, names for two year olds must be submitted by February 1st of the two year old year or a fee applies, which I believe is $100.

So if the horses you are getting are two years old NOW and unnamed, it will cost you $100 each to name them.
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Postby tofutti » Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:23 am

Thanks so much they will actually be two this January sorry for the confusion so I have some time. I know your an expert when it comes to pedigree and such what do you think soley on match of sire and dam a filly by Minardi out of Storming Up a Storm Bird mare?

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Postby madelyn » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:36 pm

Me? Certainly no expert.

But reflective of the work of others, it is a very interesting pattern for sure.

You have the double up of Northern Dancer through Storm Bird and Danzig and a pretty heavy concentration of him (23%); and doubling up on family 7a through Petitioner, which would be Rasmussen Factor, had Petitioner been a Great mare. Lots of "Christmas lights" at generation 5. And Mr. Prospector is there, in the same spot as in Caiman's pedigree (your filly's half brother). Certainly Storming Up could race, and her first foal seems to be a decent example. If your filly has four legs, all on straight, you can't go too far wrong for her $1200 price last January.
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Postby tofutti » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:28 pm

Thanks so much for the feed back, I purchased this filly privately and paid 10K I know I over paid but I really liked her and so did my trainer/partner. Would you still feel thats ok and I knew about Caiman and if this filly can run like him I should be ok.

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Postby madelyn » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:54 pm

Wow. Quite a markup.

Well notwithstanding, if you bought the filly to race you must like her conformation and suitability athletically, and that is really the more important aspect. Registration papers do not run the race.

That said, Minardi seemed to perform best on turf and Storming Up was a router from a solid family of routers. So if your filly follows form, you might point her toward longer races on turf or all-weather surface. I wish you very well with her; I have a mare I purchased last August who is in foal to Minardi. He was a very nice horse -- I just think they erred when they sent him to Kentucky as a sire. No one here had even heard of him. Anyhow, you could see how his offspring were received by your filly, who sold for $1200 against an average of $4,533 (she ranked 5 of 6 sold) against a published stud fee of $10,000. More and more frequently, some of the prices I see paid at sales have very little, if nothing at all, to do with the quality of the animal being sold. Instead, those prices seem more a reflection of the money spent on advertising the sire, the outlandishness of the stud fee, and the amount of influence the bloodstock agent has over his client's judgement. Certainly it's not true in all cases, but I have seen horses with what I believe is slim to none chance of ever racing (bad mechanics or conformation, or that coupled with surgeries to correct the visual aspect of bad mechanics or conformation) go for outrageous amounts of money. Gosh that was bad grammar.. Oh well.

What have you named her?
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Postby tofutti » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:02 pm

Thats what me and Jerry (my name is Bill) were thinking route races on the grass. Storming Up is out of a nice family and this filly is very nice looking although she seemed to be pointing outwards but we have corralled that with some solid footwork and she seems to me straighting out. These were my first to horses I bought so I really know I over paid but I'm ok with that. I'm probably going to name her Stormy Danielle after my daughter. The other filly we picked up was by Sligo Bay out of Appealing Greeley a Mr Greeley mare same price I paid 20k for the both of them and I know neither one of their offspring average that sales price but you learn as you go on, what do you think about her upside from a pedigree perspective?

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Postby madelyn » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:15 pm

Another pedigree that shows grass preference in the sire.. yet Sligo Bay was from a family of sprinters, but was able to win the Turf Cup at Hollywood at a mile and a half (12 furlongs). Her underside (damline) is all down and dirt sprinters so perhaps she will make a very good rabbit for her stablemate in those times when you can't find a race to suit her. Given her pedigree, she might do well on dirt or all-weather as a sprinter at the beginning anyhow. I rather like Appealing Danielle (one too many letters?) for that filly and Danielle's Bounds for the other...

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