What deteremines the Quality and rating of TB's?

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gc 53
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What deteremines the Quality and rating of TB's?

Postby gc 53 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:29 am

Didn't know if I should post this here or under Stallions, Racing etc. But here goes.

In my past and current passions of play. Olympic Weightlifting and Track and Field events. I enjoyed these type of competitions because to a large degree winners and yearly rankings, ratings etc could be determined by "measured performances". And yes, some of those that were at the top the previous year, could sometimes be banned from competition the very next season due to performance enhancing drugs.

In TB Racing. I'm asking to get an understanding of this sport. Not to downgrade any part of it. But just as in human athletics. Some have exposure to better trainers, handlers, jockeys, facilities, nutrition etc. While others don't fall under the same benefits. So if that's the case and it seems to be so. Isn't there some Stallions or mares (since these 2 genders have the ability to reproduce future generations of Track Stars etc.) that may have the potential to produce, compete and contribute to the future betterment of the Sport and Breed?
Are there mares and stallions out there that could be "sleepers", that if given the above mentioned benefits of some of the other Standouts in the Industry? Are we missing some opportunities to take advantage in using these individuals.
My experience in breeding Show dogs, working breeds as well. That I have seen what is termed "backyard breeders" produce Best in Show Winners" These are people that may only have a single dog to use as their stud and maybe 2 or 3 bitches to breed. Yet have accomplished this sought after Goal.
I'm reading your posts, I've bought a few books and the dvd on Richard Mandella's "On The Muscle" in the past month. So I'm enjoying learning from what I am having the chance you Breeders, Trainers etc are supplying here on this Forum.
I hope that there may be some Great experiences out there that you will respond to this post with.
Thanks for taking the time to read it and I look forward to reading your responses.
Gary

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Postby LB » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:23 am

The short answer to your questions is...well sure. There's nothing about TB horse racing or breeding that's a level playing field.

To use a show dog analogy: you breed a litter and there are 2 very good show prospects in it. You keep one and sell the other to a show home. Six months later, something goes awry at the new home--maybe the owners get divorced or they lose interest in showing dogs--and your promising puppy never makes it into the ring.

The same sort of thing happens in horses. Every breeder who sells the foals they produce, prays that those horses end up in the right hands--because that can make all the difference to the horses' prospects of doing well.

As for your backyard breeders (I always preferred the term "small hobby breeder" myself :wink: ) breeding BIS winners, it's not surprising to me that a quality operation can outproduce a quantity one. And again, the same is true in horses.

gc 53
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Tb's.

Postby gc 53 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:01 pm

LB..
You said everything the way it happened with dogs and Show Quality puppies never making it to the Show Ring.
I enjoyed your response.Thanks for the Post.

Gary

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Postby LB » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:25 pm

LOL, Gary, I showed dogs for 20 years, my mother showed them for 50 years, my grandmother was a group judge. It was an easy leap of logic for me to make. :wink:

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Postby gc 53 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:09 pm

[url]http://sites.google.com/a/dishmail.net/saga-farms/

LB..
Check out my link to our "free homepage" suppied by Dish network.
It has a couple of sculptures of life size head studies I have done of dogs. And there's a pic of our 1 and only mare along with another pic of the stallion we got after he was retired and needed a home.
With your background showing dogs I would welcome your thoughts about these two. I've been selling them now for almost 2 yrs.
Gary....we showed..Bullmastiffs, Akitas, Dobermans, and Bouvier Des Flandres. How 'bout your family?[/url]

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Postby LB » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:01 am

That's some really beautiful artwork. :)

My mother and grandmother had mostly terriers; I bred and showed Standard and Miniature Poodles.

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Thanks.

Postby gc 53 » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:33 pm

LB..thanks for the comment on my Art work. I'm glad you liked them. We had all kinds of dogs growing up, including Jack Russells, And Cairn terriers.
I was surprised at how tall Standard Poodles got to be.
Gary