Great Horses in history never to be HOY

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Great Horses in history never to be HOY

Postby Tucumcari » Sun May 02, 2010 11:02 am

Who were they?
At this point Zenyatta was ripped off
Who else?
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Postby Dave C » Sun May 02, 2010 7:19 pm

She's only ripped off if there is a bucket of oats to go with it, and a cash prize for the owners. :D

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Postby tbrace » Sun May 02, 2010 9:36 pm

You are right, Tuc, ripped off. Others?

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Re: Great Horses in history never to be HOY

Postby horsenuts » Sun May 02, 2010 10:22 pm

Tucumcari wrote:Who were they?
At this point Zenyatta was ripped off
Who else?


If Zenyatta's team wanted HoY so badly in 2009 than her handlers should have ran her accordingly. 5 starts within a 100 mile radius is not the stuff of champions.

RA raced all over the eastern half of the US from Louisiana to Arkansas to Kentucky to Maryland on to New York and New Jersey.... she ran at the Fair Grounds, Oaklawn Park, Churchill Downs, Pimlico, Belmont, Monmouth & Saratoga winning at each and everyone of those hallowed tracks. 7 different tracks with 8 wins in a row while racing and defeating males on 3 occasions including the Classic Preakness Stakes and why she was HoY.

It was the greatest 3 year old filly run since the ill fated Ruffian swept the Filly Triple Crown prior to breaking down in her match race against Foolish Pleasure.

No question RA's immense efforts took a toll on her as evidenced late last summer as she just held on to win her last race against older males at Saratoga. She was beginning to regress than and has regressed further since. But her 'white hot run' will not soon be forgotten by fans who appreciate brilliance as she lit up the racing world for much of 2009.

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Postby Nancy T » Mon May 03, 2010 4:00 am

Well Said HorseNuts

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Postby zinn21 » Mon May 03, 2010 6:20 am

Swaps....

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Postby TJ » Mon May 03, 2010 6:34 am

zinn21 wrote:Swaps....

Hi Zinn,
Swaps won HOTY in 1956. The year after Nashua defeated him in a match race and was awarded horse of the year over Swaps, who I believe was undefeated in 1955.....till he lost that match race to Nashua. TJ

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Postby Tucumcari » Mon May 03, 2010 9:22 am

This is not solely a Zenyatta post or the failings of her handling/campain post.. OTHER HORSES WHO WERE GREAT THAT NEVER RECIEVED HOY
Proverbs 31:8

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Postby going4stamina » Mon May 03, 2010 12:44 pm

I don't know if he was one of the greatest of all time, but Silver Charm had a heck of a career to never get HOY.

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Postby pfrsue » Mon May 03, 2010 1:11 pm

If not for Affirmed, Alydar would have been a shoo-in, I imagine.

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Postby Lucy » Mon May 03, 2010 1:53 pm

Remember the analogies from the SAT tests?

Zenyatta : Curlin
Personal Ensign : Alysheba

Arguably the greatest mare to miss out on HOY, though, was Shuvee.

Among males, Sword Dancer, Native Diver and Precisionist come to mind.

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Postby TJ » Mon May 03, 2010 3:25 pm

Omaha was the only Triple Crown winner that wasn't voted HOTY. In 1935 that honor went to the older Discovery. TJ

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Postby jagger » Mon May 03, 2010 7:06 pm

Great stat, TJ!!! What did Discovery do to garner HOY?

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Postby reenci » Mon May 03, 2010 7:23 pm

TJ wrote:Omaha was the only Triple Crown winner that wasn't voted HOTY. In 1935 that honor went to the older Discovery. TJ


and rightfully so.
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Postby jim10366 » Mon May 03, 2010 7:26 pm

"At three he took the Swale Stakes in the fastest 7 furlongs of the Gulfstream Park meeting in a time of 1:22 1/5, the Grade II Gotham Stakes, the Grade I Wood Memorial, the Grade I Belmont Stakes, the Grade I Whitney Stakes, the Grade I Travers Stakes, the Grade I Woodward Stakes, and the Grade I Jockey Club Gold Cup.

In the Gotham, Easy Goer's winning time of 1:32 2/5 for the mile set a new track record, was the fastest mile ever run on dirt surface by any three year old thoroughbred in history to this day, and was 1/5 of a second off of Dr. Fager's world record.

Easy Goer also missed the stakes and track record in the Whitney by 2/5 of a second (established by Fred W. Hooper's Tri Jet), and the Travers by 4/5 of a second (held by General Assembly). In 3 of these races (Whitney, Woodward, and Jockey Club Gold Cup), Easy Goer defeated older horses, becoming one of the few 3-year-olds in modern American racing history to accomplish such a feat.

Easy Goer is the only horse in history to win the Whitney, Travers, Woodward and Jockey Club Gold Cup. Additionally, he is one of only two horses to win the Champagne, Belmont Stakes and Travers. He was one of the last American-trained horses to win two Grade I races at a mile and a half on dirt (Belmont Stakes and Jockey Club Gold Cup). Easy Goer's 1989 3-year-old campaign was most likely the greatest in American racing history, without yielding any year end championship awards."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_Goer