what do you look for on 2YO breeze videos?

[Toccet02]

Name one thing you hate to see and one thing you love to see.
Is the final time important?
Does immaturity matter, or do you take it as a matter of course? (ducking, tossing head, etc)

[vallygirl927]

Good question! I'm interested in any responses too!

[karenkarenn]

When I go down to see my two year old I look to see:
1. How does she accept the bit? rider?
2. Does she look rank? Uncomfortable? Detesting the job at hand?
3. Her attitude of in general......
4. How she is galloping? can he or she handle the track? Is her body all over the place? does she look like shes zig zagging or fish tailing?
5. Are they going to breeze him or her in company and how does she handle that?
6. Maturity ALWAYS matters, always- no difference between a saddle horse or a racehorse- if they are not ready- just don't do it.

I would hate to see that she hates her job or just a down right negative attitude.
I would love to see her relaxing, taking her time, learning and enoying her life.

[Crystal]

balance.

[Toccet02]

Great. Now, for non-horse owners like me, what are the signs that the horse has a bad attitude? Sometimes eager and angry can look the same to one who isn't around them all day. Unless of course we're talking ears. They never lie.

Crystal, do you mean literally balance, as in keeping a straight course, or a balanced confo?

[karenkarenn]

Tail twitching
Tail ringing
refusing to train
Eyes - facial extressions
refusing to get to the correct lead
ears - ( you said it) flat against head
crow hopping, or worse bucking.
Bitting
bleeding -- thats a good one- esp from the mouth
and to add on to crystal said if you look closer at the way the horse is putting their feet down usually heel toe. Does one side ( the Bars) come down sooner than the other side-- ( does he or she walk differently besides heel to toe) --
You can usually go behing the horse ( far away) and look at the print left behind. It's a good sign that all isn't well.

[karenkarenn]

Oh duh and another thing I forgot
Is the horse running with its mouth wide open and head out? Like they are just pulling on the rider. Oh I hate watching that. Back all bowed. Just out of control -- not fun to watch or ride.
K

[Toccet02]

Oh duh and another thing I forgot
Is the horse running with its mouth wide open and head out? Like they are just pulling on the rider. Oh I hate watching that. Back all bowed. Just out of control -- not fun to watch or ride.
K

as far as watching the breeze videos and seeing that above in a 2YO you were thinking of bidding on...
BIG no? but what if you consider it spirit? Eagerness to run? in that case it may be a big yes.
yes, no, never?

[karenkarenn]

any type of video
Head out, mouth gaping, out of control... No way.
If you do decide to buy a horse like that I think your giving your trainer a hard time.
Eagerness okay but you can't have a winning horse that is out of control.
I would want the horse to learn how to rate with head, neck and back in it. Wouldn't want to take a horse like that to a trainer-
Send it to another farm to Re train, get it under control then take it to the track.
Hands and seat of the rider can make a difference. Regardless if he or she is a sprinter or a stayer they need to be under control. Need to rate- you can't win the race by the first quarter, only at the wire.

[Crystal]

size balance, conformation balance, stride balance. A horse who is comfortable with what they are doing will have good flow. A mustang car or old beater.. both may get you there but which would you like to drive?

a good horse who has it all will be a stand out to the eye.

[dray33]

I like breeze videos that show the normal speed and some form of detailed slow motion. I think at normal speed you can get a good indication of balance, comfort, eagerness and all the things mentioned (feel) and slow motion is excellent for seeing any issues like paddling, hoof impact, lead changes, etc. (mechanics).

Without question, the leader in the industry for all things internet/technology related is Eisaman Equine. They are simply without peer. Exceptional conformation photography, full detailed working videos. Smart presentation, fully social and shareable. Here's an excellent example of how to present a sales horse to the market:

http://www.eisamanequine.com/private_sales.html

Pick a horse and watch the videos, there are usually more than a few that string together, from breeze videos, galloping videos, a shot from the first turn, and a slow motion off the gallop.

Pretty:
http://www.eisamanequine.com/horses/pol ... 7.html#hip

[Toccet02]

Thanks Dray. Yeah, that Polish Nana filly did a very easy relaxed looking 10:1!
Some of them look like they'll never recover after being flogged to produce such a time. (Not Eis.'s horses, I just mean random others)

Now what I find funny is Shackelford. He has an odd front-heavy running style and seems to skew both front feet off to the right...but does he get it done and how!!!

[dray33]

Yeah, really surprised by Shackelford. I think it's the Forestry thing. He's been game in both Triple Crown races. Very impressive.

[pfrsue]

Now what I find funny is Shackelford. He has an odd front-heavy running style and seems to skew both front feet off to the right...but does he get it done and how!!!

I'd noticed that too, and wondered if it was a bit of an illusion because of his coloring. But every time I watch the replay I think he looks more like he's churning through the deep end of a swimming pool than galloping on a race track. It works for him though!

[Toccet02]

I like Forestry a lot. Both for guts and precociousness