Can anyone tell me what states and/or tracks are allowing the Flair nasal strips WHILE racing. (Not sure if there are any other brands??) If it is easier to list the ones that are not that is fine too.
Also does anyone know if the use is limited to certain races even if allowed at a certain track or state? For example I know they where used in the BC....but if the BC runs in a state or track that does not allow them, what happens?
I am thinking of using them....anyone have any pros or cons on their use?
Nose strips
Moderators: Roguelet, hpkingjr, WaveMaster
oleos93 wrote:Couldn't help but notice I'll Have Another was wearing a nose strip at the Derby.
I have to wonder does that mean he was Lasix free as from what I understand about the strips it is in lue of lasix
Hi Oleos,
The "Flair" Equine Nasal Strip was never intended to prevent bleeding or to be used in lieu of lasix, although in their marketing campaign they do bring up the possibility that it may help prevent bleeding. The strip, in itself, will never prevent bleeding from the lungs in horses who are susceptible to EIPH , but it is suggested (because the air flow is less restricted) it will reduce stress and therefore possibly help prevent bleeding. I'll Have Another was definitely on lasix when he won the Derby.
The important thing to know about the nasal strip is that it just doesn't work for all horses. The reason being, some horses soft tissue of and around the airway is better developed than others (stronger if you will, therefore less susceptible to collapsing under heavy respiration).....these horses usually won't be aided by the strip. You can figure out if your horse could be helped by these nasal strips for yourself. After your horse engages in some strenuous exercise....you may notice a small depression on the narrow part of the horse’s snout where soft tissue can be seen collapsing immediately after hard exercise.....if this is seen, your horse would most likely be aided by these nasal strips. TJ
oleos93 wrote:Couldn't help but notice I'll Have Another was wearing a nose strip at the Derby.
I have to wonder does that mean he was Lasix free as from what I understand about the strips it is in lue of lasix
Every horse in the Derby raced on lasix, including I'll Have Another, who was also given an adjunct med.
TJ....what I have been hearing is pretty much dead on to what you just said....however I hear barrel folks have all good things to say about the strip and I don't believe they are big Lasix users anyway.
I do like that concept of what it does in helping with opening the nasal passage and allowing more air in.....not so much to aid in bleeding as much as aid in getting oxygen to the heart and lungs.
I know just from a normal day working on the farm at the end of the day my nose is filled with dirt....I can imagine what a horses is like after running on dirt and having dirt in their face, it has to get up in there.....we can at least blow it out.
May be worth trying them even as a work out tool.
Thanks!
I do like that concept of what it does in helping with opening the nasal passage and allowing more air in.....not so much to aid in bleeding as much as aid in getting oxygen to the heart and lungs.
I know just from a normal day working on the farm at the end of the day my nose is filled with dirt....I can imagine what a horses is like after running on dirt and having dirt in their face, it has to get up in there.....we can at least blow it out.
May be worth trying them even as a work out tool.
Thanks!
oleos93 wrote:TJ....what I have been hearing is pretty much dead on to what you just said....however I hear barrel folks have all good things to say about the strip and I don't believe they are big Lasix users anyway.
I do like that concept of what it does in helping with opening the nasal passage and allowing more air in.....not so much to aid in bleeding as much as aid in getting oxygen to the heart and lungs.
I know just from a normal day working on the farm at the end of the day my nose is filled with dirt....I can imagine what a horses is like after running on dirt and having dirt in their face, it has to get up in there.....we can at least blow it out.
May be worth trying them even as a work out tool.
Thanks!
They can too! If you've never been blasted with a load of horse snot - you haven't been around horses much.There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle.
- Alexis de Tocqueville
- Alexis de Tocqueville
LOL...been around them for over 36 years and yes been "blasted" plenty of times...my point is we can't put a tissue up to their nose and say blow like we did our kids when they were 2....hold one nostril while they blow one side then reverse....if you had or have little ones you know what I mean. A horse can "blast" out snot as you put, it but they cannot blow their nose like we can and get everything out like we can.
And my point on that is strips, as that is the topic, would be a benifit in my opinion for that reason.
And my point on that is strips, as that is the topic, would be a benifit in my opinion for that reason.
-
karenkarenn
- Breeder's Cup Winner
- Posts: 2145
- Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:01 pm
- Location: Planet Earth
- Contact:
I do like that concept of what it does in helping with opening the nasal passage and allowing more air in.....not so much to aid in bleeding as much as aid in getting oxygen to the heart and lungs.
Hello Oleos,
The issue that you are forgetting is that the reason why there is a burst capillaries in the lung. The strip isn't to help the blood flow going around the lungs, and you are right about getting more oxygen but wrong about it helping the capilaries not to break. The excercise causes the heart to beat fast thus creating more, harder blood flow and since the walls of the capillaries can break because they are thin, the blood pressure in the capillaries cause the breakage.
The capillaries in the brain does the same thing if the blood pressure rise.
casallc wrote:oleos93 wrote:TJ....what I have been hearing is pretty much dead on to what you just said....however I hear barrel folks have all good things to say about the strip and I don't believe they are big Lasix users anyway.
I do like that concept of what it does in helping with opening the nasal passage and allowing more air in.....not so much to aid in bleeding as much as aid in getting oxygen to the heart and lungs.
I know just from a normal day working on the farm at the end of the day my nose is filled with dirt....I can imagine what a horses is like after running on dirt and having dirt in their face, it has to get up in there.....we can at least blow it out.
May be worth trying them even as a work out tool.
Thanks!
Hi Cas,
Ain't that the truth....and usually right after I put on a clean white shirt:>) TJ
oleos93 wrote:LOL...been around them for over 36 years and yes been "blasted" plenty of times...my point is we can't put a tissue up to their nose and say blow like we did our kids when they were 2....hold one nostril while they blow one side then reverse....if you had or have little ones you know what I mean. A horse can "blast" out snot as you put, it but they cannot blow their nose like we can and get everything out like we can.
And my point on that is strips, as that is the topic, would be a benifit in my opinion for that reason.
Hi Oleos,
One thing they can do is blow out their nostrils....but we sometimes have to help clear up their sinus cavity...either flushing them out with a nasal catheter and syringe loaded with salin solution or albuterol according to necessary requirements....or steaming out their head and sinus cavity. Back in the day we used asthmador (sp)....we put it in a large coffee tin, placed some sheet cotton on the bottom.... sprinkled the asthmador over it then lit it with a match. We would put a towel under the halter where it goes over the nose so as to keep the fumes from escaping. It smelt like we were smoking pot:>) It has since been banned, mainly because of the risk of fire....but they would blow out gobs of black gunk. TJ