Italian drugged horse racing racket

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Italian drugged horse racing racket

Postby sulphurfire » Mon May 16, 2005 9:50 am

http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050 ... acingcrime


It says in the article that they seized 80 horses.
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thats not what i'd think Viagra would do to a horse!!

Postby Final Voyage » Mon May 16, 2005 11:07 am

An illegally built race track is one thing, but giving a horse Viagra??? I'll admit a lot to learn about illegal doping, but Viagra sure wouldn't be my first guess at illegal substances to inprove performance ON The RACETRACK> LOL!! :wink:
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Postby madelyn » Mon May 16, 2005 12:09 pm

Hmmmmm, being an engineer, not a scientist, I had not thought AT ALL about one of those Man Candies affecting a racehorse... but I suppose it must do something to pump up an, er, deflated... well I suppose it would have an effect on cardio and respiratory. I just wonder how they can race with the fifth leg hanging down.....
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Postby Rick » Mon May 16, 2005 12:54 pm

Viagra is used to treat pulmonary hypertension in humans and might stop pulmonary bleeding in horses.

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Postby yukidragon » Mon May 16, 2005 12:56 pm

I dont see how Viagra would improve a horse on the track.
Whats next pot brownies for horses.
never mix the too it will kill you.

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Postby sulphurfire » Mon May 16, 2005 1:23 pm

Yukidragon, trainers have used pot for racehorses before. I know a girl who used to use it on her barrel horse. she said it hyped him up.
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Postby Final Voyage » Mon May 16, 2005 2:21 pm

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: I"m rolling on the floor laughing at this though i know it could be a serious er..... uhmm.... problem.

"Fifth leg"... hee hee hee hee hee
"pot brownies"..... arffff arrff arrffffffff!!!

madelyn you slay me!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby yukidragon » Mon May 16, 2005 2:37 pm

I guess if you can think of it, someone is trying it or doing it somewhere in the world.
I kinda like to see it be drug free horse racing,let the best horse win.

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Postby Tucumcari » Mon May 16, 2005 3:05 pm

I wanna know if it was a sprint or a route :oops:

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Postby Final Voyage » Mon May 16, 2005 3:35 pm

I wanna know if it was a sprint or a route



(Howls with more laughter) definitely a route!!!

A friend once told me that LSD is actually horse tranquilizer, made me wonder what my gelding was thinking when we were cleaning his sheath (nasty!!! chore)to be avoided at most costs) as he mellowed out a lot and it seemed like his feet were glued to the floor! I know he wasn't laughing!!


Meth is the drug that worries me, as the illegal (and their all illegal) makers of it have been stealing or buying the ingredients for it from vet supply stores and horse catalogs. Tri-Hist :?: granules seem to be the ones targeted and (glucosamine?). Are these these drugs legal for race days? :?:
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Postby madelyn » Mon May 16, 2005 3:49 pm

I would think they could run for hours, there is that man candy commercial that warns if it persists for more than four hours seek medical help.....Four Hours... could you imagine?
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Postby BJ » Mon May 16, 2005 4:06 pm

Tucumcari wrote:I wanna know if it was a sprint or a route :oops:


:lol: Viagra = Sprint; Cialis = Route... :lol: :lol: :lol: That's the one where they say, "with an erection lasting longer than 4 hours, consult your physician" :lol: :lol: What I want to know is how many men have to call in sick 'til the pupper goes down on an a.m. quickie :shock: :lol: :lol:

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Postby rgdgmr » Mon May 16, 2005 4:49 pm

Not to deflate everyone's viagra jokes, but the University of Colorado is performing studies on the use of viagra to prevent pulmonary edema. Here's the article from the LA times:

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Viagra used to prevent pulmonary edema at high altitudes
In the beginning, it gave hope to older men trying to give their sexual performance a lift.

Now sildenafil, better known by its trade name, Viagra, is gaining popularity for a different use among skiers and mountain climbers. Their concern: avoiding high-altitude pulmonary edema, a potentially deadly condition in which excess fluid collects in the lungs.

Research has been accumulating about sildenafil's value in nonsex-related uses. The drug has been shown to help some people with high blood pressure in arteries supplying the lungs, a condition known as pulmonary hypertension.

Studies on its use for pulmonary edema include one published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in August. German researchers found that the drug not only prevented this type of edema but also increased the ability to exercise at altitude.

"It's still preliminary and needs to be better studied," says Dr. Peter Hackett, a founding member of the Wilderness Medical Society, a Colorado-based association focused on health in remote environments. "People should not just be running out and buying this stuff because they are going" to high altitudes.

Hackett, director of emergency services at the Telluride Medical Center in Colorado, has studied the drug. He says people who have a history of pulmonary edema and are bound for high-altitude hiking or skiing might consider taking sildenafil as a preventive but only with their doctor's OK. He has used sildenafil to treat pulmonary edema with good results, he says, though he would not routinely recommend the drug.

Sildenafil has not been shown to relieve the more common type of altitude sickness known as acute mountain sickness, or AMS, says Dr. Robert "Brownie" Schoene, past president of the Wilderness Medical Society and professor at UC San Diego School of Medicine. Symptoms include headache, nausea, loss of appetite and difficulty sleeping.

"AMS can occur at altitudes of 6,000 to 8,000 feet," Schoene says. Descent often helps; if symptoms persist or are severe, medical help is recommended.

By contrast the symptoms of high-altitude pulmonary edema, or HAPE, include shortness of breath, fatigue and cough, sometimes with frothy, pink sputum. Schoene says the condition has been recorded at 8,000 feet but is much more common at 9,000 to 12,000 feet, and the onset is usually two to four days after arrival.

"In our emergency room, we probably see a dozen cases of HAPE a year," says Dr. Chris Hummel, director of the emergency department at Mammoth Hospital in Mammoth Lakes.

Confirmed diagnoses of acute mountain sickness occur at about the same rate, Hummel says, "but we suspect the number is actually … higher. Many with acute mountain sickness don't come to the ER."

Treatment typically involves supplemental oxygen and the drug nifedipine (Adalat, Procardia), which lowers pulmonary artery pressure.

"It's the same concept as sildenafil, but sildenafil is more potent than nifedipine," Schoene says. In the lungs, sildenafil keeps the blood vessels dilated, he says. Pressure doesn't build, and the vessels don't leak fluid into the lungs' tiny air sacs.

For mountain climbers, a typical dose of sildenafil is 50 milligrams every eight hours, Hackett says. To treat erectile dysfunction, the usual dose is 50 milligrams before sex, he says.

Unwanted sexual arousal usually is not a problem, Hackett says. "There has to be sexual stimulation, which is usually not available on a mountain-climbing expedition. You are just struggling to survive."


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Postby Tucumcari » Mon May 16, 2005 5:36 pm

BJ wrote:
Tucumcari wrote:I wanna know if it was a sprint or a route :oops:


:lol: Viagra = Sprint; Cialis = Route... :lol: :lol: :lol: That's the one where they say, "with an erection lasting longer than 4 hours, consult your physician" :lol: :lol: What I want to know is how many men have to call in sick 'til the pupper goes down on an a.m. quickie :shock: :lol: :lol:


Four hours!!! I'd be thrilled if a man had one for one!!! Imagine a world where it lasted four hours...

But really, where do people come up with these useful enhancers?! Testing is gonna get really expensive...

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Postby Final Voyage » Mon May 16, 2005 7:36 pm

:oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You all just crack me up, didn't expect to laugh much on this forum or under this topic!!!
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