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Advertising a stallion

Postby Hedgerows » Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:04 pm

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for where to advertise a stallion that may be of interest to smaller race breeders and/or sporthorse breeders? I have just acquired a wonderful older stallion who is well bred but never got commercial enough to have alot of runners. I would like to get his name out there, and see if anyone is interested for either discipline- any suggestions?

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Postby TBG » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:20 pm

What is his name and where is he located?

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Stallion info

Postby Hedgerows » Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:05 am

His name is Cefis, and he will be standing in Elkton, MD at Rivermist Farm. He is older, but still very fertile, with all mares taking on first breeding this year. He had a decent race record, but has not gotten tons of exposure as a stallion, and has not had very many foals race. I beleive his foals earnings are around the 1 million mark. He is a fabulous mover, and throws very correct foals with great attitudes. I also have his yearling son on the farm for people to see.

I will be offering a reduced stud fee to race breeders as well as those that will show the foals on the line.

Kristen
Rivermist Farm

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Postby camohn » Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:05 pm

If you want to market sporthorses I have done well by putting photo ads on Dreamhorse.com and Equine.com. They have "stallion specials" for $50 to 100 you get 1 year and 2 photos. In general the SH crew is very "online" oriented in their equine stud searching.

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Postby madelyn » Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:38 pm

Question... do the SH breeders expect AI?

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Postby camohn » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:24 pm

SH and AI: my 2 cents
most SH breeders are used to AI because that is what most SH stallions offer. Some folks with subfertile or older mares would love to do LC instead. I have 1 SH mare that will not take on AI but always takes on first cover w/ LC so she does have to be bred LC>I think its an extender issue. I have my own TB stallion now but before I did it was quite hard to find a SH stallion that would do LC for her. While many race farms want the board from LC mares most SH breeders do not want the hassle of boarding mares and more risk of getting their stallion clobbered. Most mare owners know it's rarely the mare at risk of getting hurt. It's usually the mare that does the hurting! I just refuse to do "drive by" breedings unless I know the mare is really good w/ LC (the hussies). Things get hairy with strange mares in heat suddenly appearing, but when they have been stalled next to him for a couple days and socialized first we have had things go much smoother. It is not at all hard to train for AI. It took my boy 2 hours and 200 bucks at New Bolton to get the hang of it. The caveat to that my guy is very picky about the tease mare. They had to have one in actual heat. He was not fooled by the overectomized mare. They told me that is not unusual for stallions that have been live covered before first. It's easier to fool the virgins!

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Postby Joe » Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:08 pm

I remember him well. Woody Stephens trained him and I think Henryk DeKiatowski owned him. He used to be a wondeful looking horse.

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Postby Pete » Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:47 am

Hi Kristin,

I spent some time with Cefis a few years back. He seemed particularly interested in my friends wife however :)

You may not know that he's named in honor of the Hall Of Fame trainer, Woody Cefis Stephens.

Please say HI to Cefis for me and good luck with him.

Regards,

Pete

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Postby Joe » Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:55 pm

Pete,

Here's a good old story about Woody. I used to think the world of him back in New York, and he couldn't be bothered by me. I used to bug him and ask him questions and he would say "Don't you have somebody else to ask that to?". He was a real character. I never did get one straight answer out of him in his whole life. Actually that's not true, he was bringing Creme Fraiche through the old paddock at Saratoga and he told me "Get back, this SOB will kick you". That was true, I hurt for 2 weeks. He got me square in the knee-cap.

It was always my impression that Woody had a hard life and only had success later on. I think he enjoyed the success, but had had such a hard life it always affected what he did.

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Postby Pete » Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:39 pm

Hi Joe,

Great story - you have a Creme Fraiche knee! Lucky you still have a knee.

I didn't know Woody, but know people who worked for him. A character seems to be the consensus.

Regards,

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Cefis

Postby Hedgerows » Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:18 am

Hi Joe and Pete-

Thansk for the additional info on Cefis. Joe- he is still an incredble looking horse, even in his older years. He has wonderful conformation and a ton of presence. You do have to watch him though, as you said Pete- He was very interested in me when he arrived also! When I get the new pictures of him up on my website, I will post a link here so you both can see him!

Thanks,
Kristen

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Postby Joe » Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:54 pm

I would love to see a picture of him, that would be great.

Woody is a tremendous story if you ever get to hear all of it. His beginnings with the Fink Brothers "The Speed Boys" was similar in acceptance to Lukas or Baffert, maybe even worse.