Native Heir resued can any one fill in the blanks

justice2275 · Postby **justice2275** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:01 pm

this was posted on a nother bord hoping some one might be abule to fill in the blanks as to how or why Native Heir wound up where he did any info might be helpful

Posted Feb. 18, 2006 05:03 PM
Just wanted to let you all know that one of our latest slaughter rescues is Va Bred Native Heir- he won 14 stakes races and over $600K! He is sound and a good guy and never should have ended up where he did (do any of them deserve this end???) Luckily we were able to buy him from the killer buyer. Native Heir is now in quarantine, putting on weight, getting some life back in his eye, and looking forward to a happy productive new life!
thank u justice

bcassidy · Postby **bcassidy** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:57 pm

nicely done whoever rescued him and what a shame this can happen to a horse like him. This horse was too good, to too many people to be carelessly discarded this way. I hope he gets the life he deserves.

Marli · Postby **Marli** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:28 pm

*this* happens all the time....

Laurierace · Postby **Laurierace** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:26 pm

Marli, I am pretty sure that all the blanks have been filled in. The person who had him second to last gave him to what was supposed to be a good home on a saturday and he was sold to slaughter the following monday. Luckily he was purchased from the meat man by a rescue. The lady who gave him away contacted me thinking I was the one who rescued him, but I was able to give her the correct information.

wilf · Postby **wilf** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:17 pm

I would like to fill in the blanks between the ears of the jerks that abandoned the horse at the first stage .What happened to the $600gs that this horse put together? Surely a little of it could have made its way back for his safe retirement! He is only 8yrs old for petes sake!! Well done guys for saving him. Any chance of a photo?

parsixfarms · Postby **parsixfarms** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:17 pm

When he won those stakes, wasn't he owned by Eclipse winner, Michael Gill?

parsixfarms · Postby **parsixfarms** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:18 pm

When he won those stakes, wasn't he owned by Eclipse winner, Michael Gill?

parsixfarms · Postby **parsixfarms** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:18 pm

When he won those stakes, wasn't he owned by Eclipse winner, Michael Gill?

Tairaterces · Postby **Tairaterces** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:32 pm

parsixfarms wrote:When he won those stakes, wasn't he owned by Eclipse winner, Michael Gill?

Yes, Gill owned Native Heir. Did a search @ T-Times and here is results:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/search ... ative+Heir

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Laurierace · Postby **Laurierace** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:09 pm

Not sure why the Gill question needed to be asked three times but...
I am not a Gill fan by any stretch of the imagination, but he has nothing to do with the horse ending up in the kill pen. He was at least two owners down the line from Gill when this happened. His last owner was promised the proverbial good home from someone she knew and trusted. The horse was picked up on Saturday and sent to New Holland on Monday. Guess he meant he would give him a good home on Sunday.
The person who gave the horse away is horrified and is doing everything she can to support him at the rescue until he gets adopted. She broke the horse as a yearling but did not earn a penny of his $600,000 plus herself. She just had a soft spot for the horse. Luckily he ended up in good hands. He never recovered mentally from all the hormones he got while racing so is a loon, and will crib the boards right off the fences, but someone will give him a home.

Heidilady · Postby **Heidilady** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:21 pm

Laurierace wrote:Not sure why the Gill question needed to be asked three times but...
I am not a Gill fan by any stretch of the imagination, but he has nothing to do with the horse ending up in the kill pen. He was at least two owners down the line from Gill when this happened. His last owner was promised the proverbial good home from someone she knew and trusted. The horse was picked up on Saturday and sent to New Holland on Monday. Guess he meant he would give him a good home on Sunday.
The person who gave the horse away is horrified and is doing everything she can to support him at the rescue until he gets adopted. She broke the horse as a yearling but did not earn a penny of his $600,000 plus herself. She just had a soft spot for the horse. Luckily he ended up in good hands. He never recovered mentally from all the hormones he got while racing so is a loon, and will crib the boards right off the fences, but someone will give him a home.

Just first, that question asked 3 times was just an accidental reposting thing. It would actually help if the other 2 were deleted but unless the poster does it or our lovely Mod squad, we're stuck with it.

I've heard of stuff like this but it makes you so nauseated thinking it could be your horse that you think is going to a good home. I'm sure I'd bawl day in and day out if I knew all the stories of how those horses ended up at New Holland.

How often would you say a thoroughbred ends up 'a loon' from all the hormones taken while racing (making their pften highstrung nature as a breed worse I mean)? A # out of ten maybe?

Laurierace · Postby **Laurierace** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:45 pm

Sorry Heidi, I can't answer your question since I don't use steroids. I guess I can answer it and say zero, but that won't give you a good representation.

summerhorse · Postby **summerhorse** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:49 pm

A lot of horses are given steroids to make them more aggressive, of course that carries over into all facets of life but that does wear off eventually. If it doesn't it is possible the horse was already a loon!

They have found cribbing to actually be more of a genetic predisposition than a vice. But any bored horse will chew on things. And who is more bored than a horse in a stall 23 hours a day? BOUNCING Off the walls in a stall 23 hours a day?

People need to be VERY careful who they give horses too. People will tell you what you want to hear. Do home checks, get contracts, get references (vet, humane, neighbors, etc.), in short make it not worth the effort for someone to take your horse and dispose of it quickly.

camohn · Postby **camohn** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:57 am

Is there a study about the cribbing being genetic? Anything I have read pointed t most cribbing being rooted in a way of relieving the pain of stomach ulcers (which most racehorses at the track and many show horses do have from being stalled 23 hours a day) . Many preeemie and orphan foals get em . Unless the cycle is broken early on it becomes an incurable habit. Also saw one study that horses that crib are low in seratonin. Same as humans with obsesive compulsive disorders. The messed up chemisty could indeed be genetic.

wilf · Postby **wilf** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:56 am

Cribbers give trainers ulcers, however what they do in their own time is fine. I have trained at least 5 cribbers and they were/are all real runners. Maybe its from the "high" they derive from the practice. Bring more , I will make room.