Dreamer, Anyone here in it?

[Pretty]

Hi all, Just watched the movie Dreamer last night, first time. I always wait until it comes out on DVD. Anyhow, I thought of all you Thor. folks and was wondering if anyone here was involved, or rode in the movie. Also I tried to find Sonador's pedigree and I think all I saw were males. Not sure if I am reading the pedigrees right. This was suppose to be based on a true story, so I was wondering what's the name of the real filly that was the first filly to ever win the Breeders cup .

[sunday_silence]

The story is LOOSELY based on that of Mariah's Storm. Interesting that they mention her in the film. I tried to enjoy it, but I had a hard time getting past all the stuff that was so unrealistic.

[madelyn]

We watched it.. I, too, had a hard time getting past all of the "made up" stuff... the vet who gets out of his truck and has concluded his "tests and she is infertile." The geldings pretending to be a mare....

[Shammy Davis]

It's an emotional story worth watching. One realistic scene was when the leg broke. There was a loud pop on the soundtrack. I jumped right out my seat. Truly a nerve wrenching moment. Other than that, the guy at the stud farm has truly gained a lot of weight. Didn't he play the basketball coach on the WHITE SHADOW TV series some many years back?

[Tairaterces]

It's an emotional story worth watching. One realistic scene was when the leg broke. There was a loud pop on the soundtrack. I jumped right out my seat. Truly a nerve wrenching moment. Other than that, the guy at the stud farm has truly gained a lot of weight. Didn't he play the basketball coach on the WHITE SHADOW TV series some many years back?

Yeah that's Ken Howard . . . . he was on Ghost Whisperer last night. All he needs is a white beard and a red suit 'cause he's already got the "bowl full of jelly" belly . . . . .

[Shammy Davis]

Tairaterces wrote:

Yeah that's Ken Howard . . . . he was on Ghost Whisperer last night. All he needs is a white beard and a red suit 'cause he's already got the "bowl full of jelly" belly

I'm thinking it might be nice to have a sequel. XMAS DREAMER! Ken Howard, as Santa, delivers a little filly to a poor out of work trainer and his family. They get stuck in the chimney and the actor from TOOL TIME, who still thinks he is Santa, comes to the rescue. Ken Howard dies during the rescue. Mr. TOOL TIME saves the filly. The trainer's wife, played by Goldie Hawn, elopes with him out of gratitude for saving the filly. The trainer and his kids train the filly and go to Dubai. The filly never runs in a race, because Santa forgot the JC papers. The trainer and his kids become ski instructors on Dubai's indoor ski slopes. Everyone lives happily ever after. Ken Howard is laid to rest with his reindeer tack at Clairborne Farm. Tourism in KY increases by 50% Makes me want to cry.

[madelyn]

*sniff* Oh Shammy!!

[Retrospectiv]

Hi all, Just watched the movie Dreamer last night, first time. I always wait until it comes out on DVD. Anyhow, I thought of all you Thor. folks and was wondering if anyone here was involved, or rode in the movie. Also I tried to find Sonador's pedigree and I think all I saw were males. Not sure if I am reading the pedigrees right. This was suppose to be based on a true story, so I was wondering what's the name of the real filly that was the first filly to ever win the Breeders cup .

Hi Pretty

I also rented the dvd a few weeks back. As a others mentioned, the story is very loosley based upon Mariah's Storm (the dam of Giant's Causeway) who is mentioned in the film. Sonador is a completely fictious horse. There was actually a piece on Mariah's Storm on the dvd I rented in the extra stuff.
The film was entirely too 'Disneyesque' for my taste but I figured I'd rent it and watch it the one time.
There have actually been tons of fillies and mares to win Breeder's Cup races, ever since the beginning in fact. The Breeder's Cup is actually made up of 7 races run on one day, the specific race mentioned in the film is the Breeder's Cup Classic, a 1 1/4 mile dirt race for 3yr olds and up open to colts, geldings and fillies/mares. No filly or mare has actually won it, and not that many have contested it over the years, though some good fillies have. The fillies and mares have their 'own' races in the Juvenile Fillies (for 2 yr olds), the Distaff (3 and up) and the Filly & Mare Turf (3 and up on the grass). The rest of the races (aside from the juvenile colts) are open to fillies & mares and they've been pretty successful competing against the boys. Miesque won two Mile titles against the boys, Safely Kept won the Sprint and Pebbles won the Turf, just to name a few of them.

If your not familiar with it, www.breederscup.com has lots of information on the big day.

[Retrospectiv]

Hi all, Just watched the movie Dreamer last night, first time. I always wait until it comes out on DVD. Anyhow, I thought of all you Thor. folks and was wondering if anyone here was involved, or rode in the movie. Also I tried to find Sonador's pedigree and I think all I saw were males. Not sure if I am reading the pedigrees right. This was suppose to be based on a true story, so I was wondering what's the name of the real filly that was the first filly to ever win the Breeders cup .

Hi Pretty

I also rented the dvd a few weeks back. As a others mentioned, the story is very loosley based upon Mariah's Storm (the dam of Giant's Causeway) who is mentioned in the film. Sonador is a completely fictious horse. There was actually a piece on Mariah's Storm on the dvd I rented in the extra stuff.
The film was entirely too 'Disneyesque' for my taste but I figured I'd rent it and watch it the one time.
There have actually been tons of fillies and mares to win Breeder's Cup races, ever since the beginning in fact. The Breeder's Cup is actually made up of 7 races run on one day, the specific race mentioned in the film is the Breeder's Cup Classic, a 1 1/4 mile dirt race for 3yr olds and up open to colts, geldings and fillies/mares. No filly or mare has actually won it, and not that many have contested it over the years, though some good fillies have. The fillies and mares have their 'own' races in the Juvenile Fillies (for 2 yr olds), the Distaff (3 and up) and the Filly & Mare Turf (3 and up on the grass). The rest of the races (aside from the juvenile colts) are open to fillies & mares and they've been pretty successful competing against the boys. Miesque won two Mile titles against the boys, Safely Kept won the Sprint and Pebbles won the Turf, just to name a few of them.

If your not familiar with it, www.breederscup.com has lots of information on the big day.

[Pretty]

Thanks all for the comments and especially Retrospectiv for the info, I will check out that sight and try and learn more.

There is one more thing about racing movies that they always portrait that I have to ask about. Are Jockeys really that back stabbing and nasty when they race, every movie I have ever watched with racing, there is always some "A" Type jockey that smashes, kick, hits the "star" jockey, to try to make him loose the race. Does this really happen, it put's an awful taste in my mouth, thinking that people at the top only get there by playing "dirty"

[Retrospectiv]

There have certainley been some star jockeys over the years who were known for an abundance of 'finesse' in their race riding but on average, the stuff you see in movies about racing is as over glorified as the rest of the content. I find little of what's in horse movies has much real truth to it.

Of course, I'm not saying that jockeys don't all have different tactics and race riding styles and some would certainley be on the more aggressive side, but keep in mind that in most all races at organized tracks, they're under the scrutiny of the stewards who oversee the running of the races for fairness so that jockeys are not overly interfearing with the horses or other jocks. Much of that hitting and kicking stuff you see in movies, if it happened in a real race, the jocks would more than likely be fined or suspended for. There have been some rather famous real bouts on horseback though....there's a great photo out there with two jocks fighting to the finish of a race...in fact, I believe it's called 'Fighting Finish'. You should be able to find it on Exclusively Equine.

[madelyn]

These days horses get disqualified and jockeys can get ruled off for even ACCIDENTALLY hitting any horse but their own with their whip, let alone touching another rider. The days of the rough and tumble, fight to the finish jockeys are long gone. There have been a couple of cases, even, of a jockey reaching over and helping another rider get a stirrup back or get righted on his horse.

[Sunday Silence]

Jolypha finished third in the BC Classic in 1992. So many fans forget that tidbit.

[BJ]

The story is LOOSELY based on that of Mariah's Storm. Interesting that they mention her in the film. I tried to enjoy it, but I had a hard time getting past all the stuff that was so unrealistic.

A movie about a racehorse unrealistic? Imagine that

[Laurierace]

I tried to unplug my brain and enjoy it for what it was, but by the end I was ready to gouge my eyeballs out!!! Seabiscuit did not insult my intelligence, so it is possible to make a racing movie that doesn't make me want to scream. Dreamer based upon a True Story is the movies full name. I figured out the based upon part, Mariah's Storm is a horse, and there was a horse in the movie. That is where it ends!
Mariah's Storm was a hell of a racemare and an even better broodmare, I don't know why that wasn't good enough. She most certainly did not hang three feet off the ground in a sling as she recovered. She didn't run in a $15,000 claiming race and then make her next start in the breeders cup classic against the boys with a jock making his third lifetime start who has to stop along the way to put his foot back in the stirrup AND still wins the race! I could go on but you get the idea!
Non racing horsey people loved the movie though so I guess that is a victory in itself.