Uncle Mo to Timely Writer

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Postby TJ » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:05 pm

Whirlaway wrote:Looking forward to the past performances.


Hi Whirl,
It was hard to find them as four of the entires were supplemental nominations. Going through KM's website was the only way to find them.....click on Rattlesnake. TJ
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:41 pm

I gotta tell ya, if i owned rattlesnake ridge, i'm thinking derby. that was a damn good race by him. he just ran into a buzzsaw in his freaking 2nd start ever with no pace at all to close into.


you can't convince me this horse got a damn thing out of a race he can run 4F in 50 seconds. look at that and look at the san felipe later today and tell me which yo think is going to be better prepped.
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Postby Hotwalker » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:46 pm

Uncle Mo has a really nice, loose, fluid motion to his stride. I like this race for him after the long lay off. Not sure he'll have enough stamina off of 2 preps, but so far so good. Looking forward to what he'll be able to do.

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Postby reenci » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:13 pm

bdw0617 wrote:I gotta tell ya, if i owned rattlesnake ridge, i'm thinking derby. that was a damn good race by him. he just ran into a buzzsaw in his freaking 2nd start ever with no pace at all to close into.


you can't convince me this horse got a damn thing out of a race he can run 4F in 50 seconds. look at that and look at the san felipe later today and tell me which yo think is going to be better prepped.


Mo galloped out good...but im in agreement with ya..just how much do you think he got out of this???? after today im not so sure he's unbeatable :roll:...if anything he's vulnerable
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Postby Bast » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:45 pm

The fractions and the final time were nothing special. He did not need to go particularly fast to beat the other horses, but this is the kind of race that would have been nice a month or so ago. There is no margin for error.

In the Ye Olde Days, horses had one or two or three preps at 1 1/8 miles so they could try different things with them--they didn't discover what they had to do with their horse IN the Kentucky Derby--they knew going into it...groan...
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Postby bdw0617 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:48 am

Bast wrote:The fractions and the final time were nothing special. He did not need to go particularly fast to beat the other horses, but this is the kind of race that would have been nice a month or so ago. There is no margin for error.

In the Ye Olde Days, horses had one or two or three preps at 1 1/8 miles so they could try different things with them--they didn't discover what they had to do with their horse IN the Kentucky Derby--they knew going into it...groan...
no one will admit it, but there was about, 5 seconds going into the stretch where I think the horse racing world held their breath, when they hit the turn and you realized that mo just wasn't going to draw off and win for fun, rattlesnake R wasn't dying today lol. Mo had to work harder than he wanted to to beat him.
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Postby dublino » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:36 am

:?: :?: :?: :?: Did we watch the same race people?

His 6th furlong of the race was ran in 11.25sec thats when he put the race to bed.

He was pulling further away after the line he could have ran around the course again whilst the other horses were paddling.

1 serious race next then the Derby, Preakness and Belmont.
I think this will probably kill Tom Durkan when he calls a Triple Crown winner, the guy is getting old now but still one of the best.

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Postby TJ » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:56 am

dublino wrote::?: :?: :?: :?: Did we watch the same race people?

His 6th furlong of the race was ran in 11.25sec thats when he put the race to bed.

He was pulling further away after the line he could have ran around the course again whilst the other horses were paddling.

1 serious race next then the Derby, Preakness and Belmont.
I think this will probably kill Tom Durkan when he calls a Triple Crown winner, the guy is getting old now but still one of the best.


Hi Dub,
I agree with you, but I guess everyone see's what they want to see. I was there and liked what I saw. Uncle Mo was ready for "this" particular race.....Pletcher made the right decision to stay at GP and run a one turn mile. 'Mo got so much more out of this race without all the negative stress of shipping back and forth to Tampa and running around two turns when he wasn't totally ready to do that....but as it turned out, he seemed quite a bit more advanced than his light work schedule attested to. Although if you were looking and saw how Stay Thirsty ('Mo's workmate at Palm Meadows) was able to win the 1 mile Gotham off one less work than Mo had....there would have been no question about Uncle Mo's readiness to go 1 mile. Two turns and the 1 1/16 of the TBD would have taken too much out of 'Mo and that's not the object in his first race back, the object is to fill the tank slowly and not take out what you've put into him in one race. Off this winning race he's fit without taking away from his current fitness level or his forward progress, which a hard race off a layoff will do. Uncle Mo galloped out an additional 1/4 mile in amazingly fast time. I can tell you this, Uncle Mo "galloped out" 1 1/8th miles faster than any race run over the dirt this season! His mile and a quarter gallop out around a second turn, while throttling down would have been good enough to win many Derby's. Those that are worried about Uncle Mo's fitness aren't aware of this horses ability and his natural occurring fitness level. Pletcher made mention of this months ago when he had his first slow work, saying he couldn't believe how much fitness he retained after his break at Jimmy Crupi's farm. This year's race pattern mirror's his 2YO campaign. At 2 'Mo broke his maiden....an easy win, at 3 'Mo wins the Timely Writer...an easy win. Next step at 2 'Mo won the GR I Champagne....next step at 3 will be the GR I Wood Memorial (hopefully that will change to the GR I Florida Derby)....but in any case it will be a GR I race. Uncle Mo's 2YO season was capped off with the main objective the GR I BC Juvenile win. Bit of a change here as a 3YO because his main objective is not one race, but a 3 race run in the Triple Crown. But it all will begin with the Derby which, if his 2YO and 3YO campaign's align, he will win as easily as he did in the BC Juvenile. After that it will get testy as the 2 week turn around to the Preakness is what separates the Triple Crown winner's from all other 3YO's. If he get's away with that....he has to taunt his breeding and win at 1 1/2 miles.
In the aftermath of his first 3YO win, Pletcher would prefer to run in the Florida Derby and send Stay Thirsty to the Wood instead. But....he will have to convince his owner that this would be the right thing to do. This is the major problem with owner's interfering with their trainer's better judgement. Knowing Pletcher, he isn't keen on shipping to NY, then shipping back to Kentucky for the Derby when all he has to do is race at GP in the Florida Derby, a short shuttle back and forth from the Boynton Beach training center, then train him up to the Derby at Palm Meadows as he did with Super Saver. Stronach was more than happy to accommodate Pletcher last season and kept Palm Meadows open later than usually so he could get all his major Derby preparation done their. For Uncle Mo....this change will afford much less stress, much less chance of injury shipping from Fl to NY, then NY to Kentucky.....if Pletcher gets his way Uncle Mo's journey will be safer and better for him. An uninterrupted schedule where he will only need to ship one time from Palm Meadow's to Churchill Downs. TJ

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Postby dublino » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:43 am

Hopefully Repole will do what Todd "Mr Derby" Pletcher says is right for the horse.
You know Pletcher is 1 for 1 in the Derby in the last 12 months?

I read an article about Repole saying its great to have two derby horses and that this time last year he was worrying about $20,000 claimers.

Lets hope he sees sense and does what Pletcher wants he has more experience with horses and should get his own way, heck if Repole wants to pick the horses races let him get a trainers license.

He doesn't even have to pay the bills with this horse, he's picking up checks left right and centre.

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Postby TJ » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:19 am

dublino wrote:Hopefully Repole will do what Todd "Mr Derby" Pletcher says is right for the horse.
You know Pletcher is 1 for 1 in the Derby in the last 12 months?

I read an article about Repole saying its great to have two derby horses and that this time last year he was worrying about $20,000 claimers.

Lets hope he sees sense and does what Pletcher wants he has more experience with horses and should get his own way, heck if Repole wants to pick the horses races let him get a trainers license.

He doesn't even have to pay the bills with this horse, he's picking up checks left right and centre.

As always TJ pleasure chatting with you and reading your reports/information on races.


Hi Dub,
Repole's "other" horse is quite a capable individual himself and was expected to be a better 3YO than a 2YO as the distances stretched out. It seems Uncle Mo has taken the limelight away from his Stay Thirsty.....but what a nice spot to be in with these two 3YO's under your shedrow.
Let's hope Repole gives Pletcher his druther's concerning Mo's schedule. TJ