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Postby DDT » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:22 pm

I think it will be very difficult to follow-up on horses that were pulled up and vanned off or walked off and for that reason we should only collect data concerning confirmed fatal breakdowns.

Coal Region Kid, g. 2006 12 starts 2-5-2
5th race Santa Anita, main track, January 6, 2012
Brokedown into lane
Euthanized
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Trainer: Santella Francesco
Owner: Vegas Racing Team, LLC

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Postby Bast » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:44 pm

DDT wrote:I think it will be very difficult to follow-up on horses that were pulled up and vanned off or walked off and for that reason we should only collect data concerning confirmed fatal breakdowns.

Coal Region Kid, g. 2006 12 starts 2-5-2
5th race Santa Anita, main track, January 6, 2012
Brokedown into lane
Euthanized
PQ data base
Trainer: Santella Francesco
Owner: Vegas Racing Team, LLC

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No, I think we need the "vanned off" category as well. We may not be able to follow up as much as would be desirable, but "Vanned off" is meaningful.

Turfway Park's current meeting has been taking place approximately the same space of time as Santa Anita, but there have been NO euthanized horses and ONLY TWO have been vanned off. This is not a reflection of the quality of the horses--this is the track. Turfway has had to deal with heavy rain and widely fluctuating temperatures, but the horses are not paying the price.
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Postby ratherrapid » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:14 pm

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Postby Monsun » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:43 am

Yes, you should also include the vanned off horses. Many of the vanned off horses still living will resurface on the workout tab over the course of the next 1-6 months. Some may get reported as euthed off the track in the Stewards' Minutes (where available). If the incident happened on a California track, check the vet's list, and if they never made it to that or don't ever seem to get off the vet's list, you will need try and investigate further. It's a slow and painstaking process, but you should be able to determine the status of most of the vanned off horses with time and patience.

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Postby Monsun » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:18 pm

And to anticipate your next post, Bast, no, I don't want to elbow my way into your project. Just tried tracking some vanned off horses once upon a time, briefly. Hope you all have more stamina then I did and can do it long time.

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Postby Bast » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:41 pm

Monsun wrote:And to anticipate your next post, Bast, no, I don't want to elbow my way into your project. Just tried tracking some vanned off horses once upon a time, briefly. Hope you all have more stamina then I did and can do it long time.


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Postby Bast » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:02 am

Any medication listed goes into the DB, too, I think.
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Postby Sysonby » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:11 am

The Golden Gate stewards actually tell you everything you are looking for in their weekly minutes.

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/Stewards/Minutes ... _02_20.pdf

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Postby Bast » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:16 am

Sysonby wrote:The Golden Gate stewards actually tell you everything you are looking for in their weekly minutes.

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/Stewards/Minutes ... _02_20.pdf


Good catch!

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Postby Shammy Davis » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:02 am

Sysonby: Thanks for the lead. Your post lead me to this.

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/stewards_minutes.html

Also from a historical perspective this might be a good reference index.

http://cdn.calisphere.org/data/13030/j5 ... 8001j5.pdf

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Postby Shammy Davis » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:08 am

Apparently the CA post mortem reports are in pdf. I found this one.

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/annual_reports/2 ... Annual.pdf

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Postby ElPrado » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:01 pm

Well, it isn't in California, but Algorithm managed to pop a splint this morning. He scratched out of the Fountain of Youth. Louis won't know about it, it wasn't in California, but the track is owned by Stronach, Gulfstream.

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Postby Sailor Kenshin » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:05 pm

This link must have been posted here before, right?

http://tracksideview.org/category/equine-health-and-safety/
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Postby Shammy Davis » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:22 am

Sailor: I've not seen that link before. Thanks.

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Postby Toccet02 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:37 pm

If I may contribute my info, Bast, what form would you like it in?
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