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Postby TJ » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:33 am

Whirlaway wrote:Here is a link to a few hundred, maybe a thousand past performances. Please indicate one past performance with the designation LA. [/b]

For someone who makes nothing but credible posts...I am surprised to see you've never seen the LA designation, which kind of blows the validity of this thread. This is what the LA looks like in official race charts. Surprised you've never seen it before with your vast knowledge of racing. You sometimes have to go out of your comfort zone to research what you are looking for in horse racing, especially if you consider yourself so knowledgeable on these issues. Laurel still currently designates Adjunct bleeder medication (A) separately from and in addition too Lasix (L). Unlike California and other states who clumps all bleeder meds under the (L) designation. The official overnights will post all necessary medication information for horsemen and women who are looking to claim a horse. Below are charts and overnights that show the LA designation, which you seemed to think, was a figment of my imagination. TJ
Official Race Chart : http://www.equibase.com/static/chart/pd ... 213USA.pdf
Official Overnight: http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbHors ... -20131221D

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Postby Whirlaway » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:20 pm

ageecee wrote:Explain to me how it is critical for bettors to know which drugs horses are getting. Will that affect your handicapping?


Different drugs or different combinations of drugs have different effects.

Horses that received furosemide raced faster, earned more money, and were more likely to win or finish in the top 3 positions than horses that did not. Horses receiving furosemide had an estimated 6-furlong race time that ranged from 0.56 seconds to 1.09 seconds less than that for horses not receiving furosemide, a difference equivalent to 3 to 5.5 lengths. (Hinchcliff)

Which horse would you bet, horse with or without Lasix? Throw in some of that Louisiana hot sauce, a good dose of estrogen or maybe half Lasix – half Ethacrynic Acid, and a good residual of that pain killer “Bute” and you have a competitive edge. (Of course, you already knew that)
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Postby Whirlaway » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:57 pm

Race day medications allowed in the Sunshine State - Florida.

Furosemide (Lasix): Diuretic
Prednisolone Sodium Succinate: For use in situations in which a rapid and intense adrenal glucocorticoid and/or anti-inflammatory effect is necessary. (Pain killer for the joints)

L + P(?)

Do horse racing fans have the right to know if the horse they are betting on is receiving the pain killing drug Prednisolone? I’ve never seen P designated in the form. How many handicappers even know about the use of the additional drug?

That is only part of the story. There are many drugs, some restricted and some unrestricted, allowed prior to 24 hours before racing:

Published rules do not quantify regulatory levels for Clenbuterol
Published regulatory guidelines do not specifically address multiple NSAIDs
Flunixin (Banamine) 20 ng/ml
Ketoprofen 10 ng/ml

Rules are fast and loose and vague in the Sunshine State ! Said horse can race with six or more (6+) drugs in system: Lasix, Prednisolone, Clenbuterol, Corticosteroid[s], Flunixin and Ketoprofen.

L + P(?) + C + C + K + B

Lasix + Prednisolone + Clenbutrerol + Corticosteroid[s] + Ketoprofen + Banamine

Interesting . . . one diuretic, one potent bronchodilator, and four pain killers. There appears to be a pattern: Build up the horse with steroids, lighten up the horse with Lasix, open up the airways with a potent bronchodilator and kill the pain with anti-inflammatories and corticosteroids. The result: horse runs faster with the increased muscle mass, lighter weight, deeper breathing and no pain. Interesting scheme . . . I would have never known.

Bettors have a right to know what drugs are given to a horse, particularly if they are placing a bet on that horse.


Down right shame all these drugs.

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The following are Florida Horse Racing Rules:

61D-6.004 Prohibited Devices, Medications, and Procedures; Exceptions. (1) The administration, by whatever means, of any medication, except furosemide and prednisolone sodium succinate, to a racing animal within 24 hours prior to the officially scheduled time of a race in which that animal is scheduled to compete is strictly prohibited. The administration of furosemide or prednisolone sodium succinate, by whatever means, to a racing animal within 4 hours prior to the officially scheduled time of a race in which that animal is scheduled to compete is strictly prohibited.

61D-6.008 Permitted Medications for Horses.(9) The following permitted medications shall not be reported by the racing laboratory to the division as a violation of Section 550.2415, F.S.: (b) The detection of flunixin at a blood serum concentration less than or equal to 20 nanograms per milliliter.

61D-6.008 Permitted Medications for Horses.(9) The following permitted medications shall not be reported by the racing laboratory to the division as a violation of Section 550.2415, F.S.: (e) The detection of ketoprofen at a blood serum concentration less than or equal to 10 nanograms per milliliter.
Published rules do not quantify regulatory levels for Clenbuterol
Published regulatory guidelines do not specifically address multiple NSAIDs
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