MR. Sekiguchi --$8-mill yearling, to debut

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Postby Des » Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:54 pm

He stopped as if he Bled.......The big L next out and he should do it at 1/9.... I Was'nt all that impressed though....Lets give him another change

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Postby Sysonby » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:57 am

I saw him walk back to the barn. I didn't see any overt bleeding. He ran like he was green and rank though and not really thrilled about being tapped with the stick. Physically, he should move forward off of this race.

Incidentally, the winner is a nice horse.

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Postby Nerd » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:42 pm

He was surprisingly compact and well-behaved, not too weirded out by the crowd of oglers taking pictures in the saddling area. There was an amusing moment when the 8 horse was walking around and stopped right in front of the crowd, checking them out, like he was the center of attention.

In the race itself, I get the impression that the move was made too early and that he lost focus in the stretch when he was ahead by a bunch. Maybe there was a fitness issue as well. In my opinion, it didn't seem that Espinoza was being all that vigorous about getting him back on track. Great run by Rising Rate to catch them at the wire.

I think this Mr Sekiguchi has talent, but just needs more under his belt. Good-looking individual if a bit small, seems to have his head screwed on right.

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Postby austique » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:03 pm

He looked to me like a horse that just flat out got tired which isn't a huge deal it being his first start. He was fairly game when the other horse came up on him. He should improve off of that.
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Postby Sam » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:07 pm

I could make some snarky comments about finally figuring out a way to keep a Storm Cat sound ... but I won't 8)

Only because, if this colt had shown even a modicum of Classic inspiring talent, they'd be pushing to make the Derby.

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Postby austique » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:54 pm

You're absolutely right Sam. While I think he'll improve off that race I don't see him ever seriously making a charge to earn that purchase price back :roll:

My question is how soon until he joins Van Nistleroy and at what fee? :wink:
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Postby Sam » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:27 pm

austique wrote:My question is how soon until he joins Van Nistleroy and at what fee? :wink:

Depends. If he manages to black type this year, he'll retire by January for $7,500. If he wins any kind of a stake, $10k. Any kind of graded stake, $15k. Give or take 3 grand in either direction.

I don't see him racing to the end of his 4yo season. I don't even see him making it to June of next year.

He'll stud. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. He's the next Tiger Ridge, so even if he only makes $50k on the track, he's going to find a home in South Florida somewhere for at least $7,500 and be bred to 150 or so mares. That's $1.125 million and he earns his purchase price back in 9 years or less. And that is EXACTLY why commercial breeders are going to be the death of this sport.

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Postby FOS » Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:55 pm

hi guys

What's the problem :lol: :lol: :lol: ?

Mr Sekiguchi cost only $8,000,000 and he's already run up a $9,000 bankroll :wink:.

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Postby magic code » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:55 am

Tasmanian Tiger anyone?

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Postby Sam » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:30 am

magic code wrote:Tasmanian Tiger anyone?

More like "Tigger" than "tiger". :wink:

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Postby LSB » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:13 am

You guys are awfully tough on a colt who's only made one start.

I assume all your horses break their maidens on their first tries? :roll:

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Postby horsenuts » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:04 am

Sam wrote:
austique wrote:My question is how soon until he joins Van Nistleroy and at what fee? :wink:

Depends. If he manages to black type this year, he'll retire by January for $7,500. If he wins any kind of a stake, $10k. Any kind of graded stake, $15k. Give or take 3 grand in either direction.

I don't see him racing to the end of his 4yo season. I don't even see him making it to June of next year.

He'll stud. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. He's the next Tiger Ridge, so even if he only makes $50k on the track, he's going to find a home in South Florida somewhere for at least $7,500 and be bred to 150 or so mares. That's $1.125 million and he earns his purchase price back in 9 years or less. And that is EXACTLY why commercial breeders are going to be the death of this sport.


I see hope for a few reasons... 1. There is now a Storm Cat son on every corner in the US which drives the price down overall. Studs like Giant's Causeway/FuPeg etc. are producing "commodities" rather than valued individuals by having 100-200 foals in a single year. Mr Sekguchi is just "another one of many" sons of Storm Cat and unless he steps up to the plate and wins a couple of Graded Stakes he'll be just another $1,000 stud that they will masquerade at $10,000(at least try to... but the gig is about up what with the incredible number of foals about to flood the market from these $100,000+ studs).

2. Many of these type of studs can be bred to for free with a decent mare so don't be fooled/swayed by the "sticker price". Remember, every stud fee is negotiable and with the onslaught of numbers from overbreeding it is only going to drive prices down further... not up. Much of the original intent of no AI in TBs was to keep this very thing from happening. Well that's been exposed and exploited.

As for Mr Sekguchi... I'll be surprised if he lasts very long as very few of the Storm Cat's make it to 10 starts and why it was imperative for him to get out of the maiden ranks ASAP. Every race takes 10-20% off his career based on performances of other Storm Cat offspring. And just why anyone would want to add such fragility to their own breeding stock is a real stumper. I'd recommend looking for soundness elsewhere than in the SC lineage.

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Postby Ill-bred » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:57 am

LSB wrote:You guys are awfully tough on a colt who's only made one start.

I assume all your horses break their maidens on their first tries? :roll:


My thoughts exactly...

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Postby horsenuts » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:13 am

LSB wrote:You guys are awfully tough on a colt who's only made one start.

I assume all your horses break their maidens on their first tries? :roll:


When you pay $8,000,000 expectations are just a little higher. And this colt has been honed on repeatedly for better than a year. It wasn't like a green Secretariat making his first start in June of his 2 year old year. Mr Sekguchi had been tested in the AM many a time.

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Postby halo » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:37 am

For your information, we had this colt until April of last year and he hadnt even begun to get "honed on". He was brought along much slower than others that we had here.