Big Brown declared out of BC

[Still Dreaming]

So I just checked the Bloodhorse for the first time today and nearly spat milk all over the computer screen.

The circumstances are a little fishy, but...damn. I was really looking forward to a confrontation between Big Brown and Curlin.

[karenkarenn]

You know I had a feeling that they wouldn't let him run in the BC.
I had and still have a horse that did that. But we learned to use Bell Boots all the time and he had a crack much worse then Big Brown, but that can be patched and heald. But its going to take about a year. Question is :
Is Big Brown favoring it?
How is his stride?
And usually there is a little skin that gets contacted too with some blood.. Looking at the photo, How did he miss the cornet band skin and just hit the hoof?
What kind of shoes was he wearing?
I would have fired Dutrow A LONG TIME AGO. Loud Mouthed Bragart get s what gets !
Karen

[Tucumcari]

He is missing a large part of the patch that was helping with the quarter crack on that foot. At this point, it IS a big thing. Something that would be very difficult to overcome as quickly as they need to over come it.
It's a shame, but maybe it will be left to their babies to prove who is ultimately better.

[Heidilady]

You know I had a feeling that they wouldn't let him run in the BC.
I had and still have a horse that did that. But we learned to use Bell Boots all the time and he had a crack much worse then Big Brown, but that can be patched and heald. But its going to take about a year. Question is :
Is Big Brown favoring it?

He didn't start favoring it til they were bathing him after. Also they say it would be 60-90 days til he'd be healed. I was shocked BB was coming up to the BCC sound. I'm a bit bummed I was right just because the big soft focused lenses some people used to think about him aren't going to be removed by a loss in the Classic.

I just don't get why anyone in their right mind would breed to him. Doesn't sound like his half-sister looked too great at the sale. Well at least when taking in the context of his racing accomplishments and supposed $50-60 mil value leading then you have her RNAing at 200K. Ultimately it's just that he's gonna be at stud for a fortune (I'll assume deals being made behind closed doors to lower it) and those feet are too much of a risk. I'm gonna guess he'll be transferring them. I hope I'm wrong.

[karenkarenn]

I would have to agree with Heidilady.
Wow look at all the foot problems. I wouldnt want something like. But I guess there are people in the world that would throw their money at anything nowadays.
Karen

[griff]

It's sad that people on this site are suggesting the owners and/or trainers of BB arranged to have half BB's is front foot torn off so he would not have to race Curlin.

Sad, really sad.

griff

[Tiz]

The photo on DRF's site looks like a quarter crack patch. I assumed it was a file photo, because grabbing a quarter involves meat, not just hoof, i.e. heel bulb. The owner said he tore a heel bulb, in fact, tore his foot half off. Do any of you see that in the photo? Come on.

[karenkarenn]

My thoughts are exactly that, were is the flesh torn off?
Karen

[majxmom]

As soon as I read it, I thought I knew that he had not injured his foot as badly as they said. But nevertheless, if he grabbed his heel bulb at all, you can't run with 11 days to heal. Inexperienced people that looked at a grabbed heel might say, "So what? Big deal!," but it is very painful and sore. Usually it just makes a half-moon laceration in the bulb of the heel about an inch long, and it doesn't usually look very deep. But if you push on it even just a little, the horse will really flinch. You can't run in 11 days, and that's that.

But then I saw the drf.com picture. Yeah, it's bad. It looks like it's beyond the sensitive laminae to me.

But I do think they've been ducking Curlin all summer, and now they've been handed on a way to duck him forever. Big Brown's connections know who's better. That's not an insult to BB. The fact is, a good four year old outruns a good three year old most of the time. A great four year old -- the leading money winning TB in North America for all time -- is sure as heck going to beat up on a good three year old, especially one with a bunch of healing injuries.

[bdw0617]

no one is saying he isn't hurt really bad. and my heart goes out the poor guy.

max hit the nail on the head. the connections, if you are going to talk a historal amount of trash, calling out the all time leading money winner in NA history out becuase he "got beat by a girl", and so on and so forth.. yeah, kyou kinda open up yourself to this.

he can F off for all i care. him and IEAH.

[valjoe]

I have a feeling that he is going to run in the BCC

[StayOutFront]

The photo on DRF's site looks like a quarter crack patch. I assumed it was a file photo, because grabbing a quarter involves meat, not just hoof, i.e. heel bulb. The owner said he tore a heel bulb, in fact, tore his foot half off. Do any of you see that in the photo? Come on.

The bulb was quite torn, the coronary band was swollen and the patch and hoof were partially torn off (right front - not the site of his major June quarter crack). The bulb doesn't show well in this particular image due to it being a side angle rather than rear view - although the torn patch/hoof are apparent.

The photo was taken Monday morning after the workout. It was a painful injury.

[valjoe]

just saw the photo, if it's an actual one, I agree with what Tiz said about it

[bdw0617]

The photo on DRF's site looks like a quarter crack patch. I assumed it was a file photo, because grabbing a quarter involves meat, not just hoof, i.e. heel bulb. The owner said he tore a heel bulb, in fact, tore his foot half off. Do any of you see that in the photo? Come on.

Thanks CSI Aqueduct

[Tucumcari]

Or just the new season of CSI NY