Wesley Ward fined $25,000 for drug violation

[Tucumcari]

Tucumcari, of course it came as a great surprise to me that you don't understand the written facts about Cal-breds , but at the risk of confusing you further, I will add that foals conceived outside of California are eligible for Cal-bred status if they are foaled here and their dams bred back to CA stallions. Be sure to read ONLY THE BLACK on this page and you'll be fine.

Do you kick your dog or let it go at berating and belittling your children?
Please feel free to confuse simple little me (as girl wraps very blonde hair around finger while sucking on a lollipop).
I understand, for the first year that the mare resides in CA. THEN she MUST be bredback to a CA resident stallion AND drop the foal on CA soil... Is that pretty much the jist of it...? Just so that I'm not confuzzed more.
Still, narrowing the gene pool considerably. And as a breeder (of KY breds) I can't see why I would be bothered to bring the mare here. With all the wide open space and green grass in KY... really why would we? What stallion in CA would even come close to the quality we can breed to in KY and are the CA breeder bonuses REALLY that significant... nope.
NEXT...

[louis finochio]

Congrats to the breeder of Slew's Tizzy, a mating that makes for soundness, as St has 11 crosses of NP in his 5 generation pedigree, plus he descends from the sire line of Fair Play. Ring one up for the gipper.

[Rokeby Forever]

But Tucumcari...in California, you'd be eligible to have a homebred run in 2 furlong races in March - and maybe run in five of them before the end of May. They might even run these races on Polytrack next year and young horses won't ever break down any more, no matter how many times they run in Santa Anita's version of the Ruidoso Futurity!

[Rokeby Forever]

Louis, you've been one of Tiznow's biggest critics for unsoundness since he started standing stud. Now he's a symbol of soundness in the breeding world after Tiz Wonderful and Folklore?

[Sysonby]

Tucumcari, of course it came as a great surprise to me that you don't understand the written facts about Cal-breds , but at the risk of confusing you further, I will add that foals conceived outside of California are eligible for Cal-bred status if they are foaled here and their dams bred back to CA stallions. Be sure to read ONLY THE BLACK on this page and you'll be fine.

Do you kick your dog or let it go at berating and belittling your children?
Please feel free to confuse simple little me (as girl wraps very blonde hair around finger while sucking on a lollipop).
I understand, for the first year that the mare resides in CA. THEN she MUST be bredback to a CA resident stallion AND drop the foal on CA soil... Is that pretty much the jist of it...? Just so that I'm not confuzzed more.
Still, narrowing the gene pool considerably. And as a breeder (of KY breds) I can't see why I would be bothered to bring the mare here. With all the wide open space and green grass in KY... really why would we? What stallion in CA would even come close to the quality we can breed to in KY and are the CA breeder bonuses REALLY that significant... nope.
NEXT...

Um actually no. It works like this--you breed a mare to a Kentucky stallion and she drops the foal in California. That Kentucky sired foal can be a Calbred if she is then bred back to a California based stallion. Now that horse can be foaled anywhere and it won't affect the status of the original foal although obviously the second foal won't be a Calbred if you foal it out of state. It might explain some of the Kentucky bred Valid Wagers, Memos and Swiss Yodelers I've run across lately. Basically every other year that your mare is in foal, it must be to a California based stallion.

As for the awards, it amounts to several million a year that is disbursed through the CTBA, not to mention the $20 million plus in restricted races for Calbreds. Again check out their site if you care. To put it in perspective, I understand the breeders of Lava Man who lost him for $50,000, have earned over $500,000 in breeders awards since losing him. Stuff like that is why people ship mares cross country just to drop the foal in California. It's not chicken feed.

http://www.ctba.com/07magazine/may/2006 ... Awards.pdf

[CA Michael]

Good try, Sysonby. An "A" for effort. But its impossible for the blind to see without a miracle. Tomorrow is Sunday, however, so maybe......

[louis finochio]

Tiznow descends from many NP sire line families, but the 3 crosses of ND found in Folklore's pedigree are related to an injury prone inherited weakness which I dont fancy for soundness.

[Rokeby Forever]

How many crosses to ND does Wesley Ward have?

[rudydee]

Rokeby-Nice comeback! That was a good one!!!

[Tucumcari]

But Tucumcari...in California, you'd be eligible to have a homebred run in 2 furlong races in March - and maybe run in five of them before the end of May. They might even run these races on Polytrack next year and young horses won't ever break down any more, no matter how many times they run in Santa Anita's version of the Ruidoso Futurity!

Perfect...
LOve the colt in at H'wood on Thursday. @year old. @ 1/4 mile starts at 2 different tracks, and in at In the hood going 4 1/2... How long till that one's on the sidelines or vanned off?... but of course it is an alternate surface, so the "holiday" is unlikely.

[Tucumcari]

CA breeder bonuses REALLY that significant... nope.
NEXT...[/quote]

Um actually no. It works like this--you breed a mare to a Kentucky stallion and she drops the foal in California. That Kentucky sired foal can be a Calbred if she is then bred back to a California based stallion. Now that horse can be foaled anywhere and it won't affect the status of the original foal although obviously the second foal won't be a Calbred if you foal it out of state. It might explain some of the Kentucky bred Valid Wagers, Memos and Swiss Yodelers I've run across lately. Basically every other year that your mare is in foal, it must be to a California based stallion.

As for the awards, it amounts to several million a year that is disbursed through the CTBA, not to mention the $20 million plus in restricted races for Calbreds. Again check out their site if you care. To put it in perspective, I understand the breeders of Lava Man who lost him for $50,000, have earned over $500,000 in breeders awards since losing him. Stuff like that is why people ship mares cross country just to drop the foal in California. It's not chicken feed.

http://www.ctba.com/07magazine/may/2006 ... Awards.pdf[/quote]

Good to know, thanks!
Something I didn't know. I appreciate the manner in which you present the facts. refreshing!

[Tucumcari]

Good try, Sysonby. An "A" for effort. But its impossible for the blind to see without a miracle. Tomorrow is Sunday, however, so maybe......

Dude, you seriously need to relax.
Your continual degradation of other posters is getting little old. Perhaps if you weren't abrassive and "attacking" at every turn you might be recieved better... just a thought.

[Tucumcari]

the bonuses in CA aren't enough for us to be terribly interested in bringing the mare here, Yes, michael one mare. We believe in quality, not quantity. The first foal sold for three quarters of a million after her third start, which was a graded stake...the next ought to bring a cool million

[CA Michael]

Fortunately I am not in a popularity contest among buffoons. There are plenty of intelligent and contributing forum members who don't post in hyperbole for me to exchange information and ideas with. Ill leave the few of you know it alls to cheer each other on.

[ageecee]

[quote="Rokeby Forever"]How many crosses to ND does Wesley Ward have?[/quote]





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