cancelled

[zinn21]

Shammy you are cherry picking the argument. You state:

"My position is that if you as a member of this board want to make specific charges of negative nature on this board against another, you need to put your credits out for all to see."

What makes SH statement anymore credible than Jimble's? SH based her allegations on events and scenarios while Jimble provides numbers to make his case.

SH appears to be a very good caretacker but based on her own words, she is clueless/uses poor judgement preparing a horse for racing.

If she was so wronged by La. racing why is she unwilling to carry the fight to the appropriate authorities or any of the multitude of news/media organizations tripping over each other for a story like this? The answer for me appears to be obvious.

[Shammy Davis]

Zinn21 posted:

If she was so wronged by La. racing why is she unwilling to carry the fight to the appropriate authorities or any of the multitude of news/media organizations tripping over each other for a story like this? The answer for me appears to be obvious.

Exactly. I agree with you. SH probably realizes it was an error to post this subject to the board, not because of the nature of the thread, but because of the nature of the responses. That being said, I know who SH is. JimbleBrimble is an unknown to me. Everything he/she posted may well be true. but I don't know that for sure. Further, he/she posted accusations of a personal nature and made claims against an individual that have a negative impact on SH's reputation. I read those posts as malicious and intended to defame another's reputation. JimbleBrimble has accused another individual of dishonesty and slander. This is a lose lose situation for both of them and as a consequence probably for the message board. If everyone took it upon themselves to make personal accusations against another individual on this board, it would be all out war. So, I agree with you. SH should have taken her complaints to an appropriate authority for arbritration or she should move on. Unlike you, I don't think the reason is so obvious and further, I don't care if you are involved in USPC or your local race track or the a show jumping circuit the politics of the horse industry is one tough nut to crack. SH's decision to put this thread on the board clearly was not in her favor. I hear she has decided to move on. The sad fact of this whole thing is that because this issue was explored on the www, she'll take this issue and the remarks made on this thread with her and JimbleBrimble, who I've noticed didn't respond with his/her credits or license to make the allegations that were made, gets to sneak back into the alley and hide to post another day. No cherry picking from me. I'm a firm believer that when you're called you put your cards on the table for all to see. I'll have to fold with that hand.

[Sylvie Hebert]

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[JimbleBrimble]

The point I'm making is that this board is on www and when you take it upon yourself to make information available to it of a negative nature concerning a particular individual you do so at their peril.

There was no information made available here that was of either a "negative" or a "positive" nature. You are again confusing factual reality with your own personal prejudices.

She spoke in general terms and they came from her perspective.

So now you are going to suggest that "her perspective" is that Noble And Strong was the third favorite in a race that was won by a longshot as "somebody made a killing" ??

I am telling you fact and fact alone, and I dare you to come here and dispute that Kauia's Bluff, the 8-to-5 favorite, didn't win the 9th race at Louisiana Downs on May 19 when the person you're attempting to side with claims that "a longshot won".

It got out of hand when specific information was made available to the board that reflected negatively on SH and her alone.

Again, there was neither negative nor positive bias in the factual reality stated here. And if some people were a bit more respectful of factual reality then they wouldn't even have started this post. Factual reality is published every day in racing publications all over the world. People lose thousands of dollars at times when drawn-in on some of these animals.

Others who posted negative information about her to the thread were not so inclined.

Again, nothing posted was "negative", only factual. (why is that so hard to understand?)

They protected themselves behind their fictional or imaginative board names.

Protected from what? Why don't you check the race results like anybody else can do, and if I have misstated the race results then you can take issue with it. Otherwise there is nothing that needs protecting.

My position is that if you as a member of this board want to make specific charges of negative nature on this board against another, you need to put your credits out for all to see.

There's the classic statement! It appears that you're quite one-sided when it comes to your unshared personal take on this. Funny how Sylvie Hebert bears no responsibility in your mind to "put her credits out for all to see" as she runs rampant all over the racing industry here in this thread.

Well guess what. I merely helped others to play this online game like Lord Shammy Davis dictates in reporting only factual reality while noting her credits. (apparently his lordship has failed to make note of one Sylvie Hebert not disputing any of the facts presented, for they are merely, as he says, "her credits")

I've got little respect for individuals who discredit others without revealing themselves

Congratulations! You are finally catching on. Someone needed to reveal her for first-time visitors to PedigreeQuery to understand the nature of her posts.


Shammy, thanks for your many posts. Your testimony here is all that was needed.

i do not lie

i ran a first time starter that ran next to last,in his next start with a very bottom of the heap jockey the horse is favourite in the paddock...third favourite at the post...finish last(broke really well was 4th in the first turn and strangely stopped and gallopped the rest (his under belly near his privates were all swollen after the race from being whipped there but not one mark on his ass...?)and a long shot wins...somebody made a killing with that race...

[Sylvie Hebert]

okay now i am gone,erased all my posts and will get out of your hairs,thanks to the ones that tried to get jimble to crawl out from under his rock...won't work...it is funny that he never comment on anything else(drugs and all)that was in those posts but only on a single race and a trainer record...good bye..case closed

[Sylvie Hebert]

[quote="Shammy Davis"]

Exactly. I agree with you. SH probably realizes it was an error to post this subject to the board, not because of the nature of the thread, but because of the nature of the responses. That being said, I know who SH is. JimbleBrimble is an unknown to me. Everything he/she posted may well be true. but I don't know that for sure. Further, he/she posted accusations of a personal nature and made claims against an individual that have a negative impact on SH's reputation. I read those posts as malicious and intended to defame another's reputation. JimbleBrimble has accused another individual of dishonesty and slander. This is a lose lose situation for both of them and as a consequence probably for the message board. If everyone took it upon themselves to make personal accusations against another individual on this board, it would be all out war. So, I agree with you. SH should have taken her complaints to an appropriate authority for arbritration or she should move on. Unlike you, I don't think the reason is so obvious and further, I don't care if you are involved in USPC or your local race track or the a show jumping circuit the politics of the horse industry is one tough nut to crack. SH's decision to put this thread on the board clearly was not in her favor. I hear she has decided to move on. The sad fact of this whole thing is that because this issue was explored on the www, she'll take this issue and the remarks made on this thread with her and JimbleBrimble, who I've noticed didn't respond with his/her credits or license to make the allegations that were made, gets to sneak back into the alley and hide to post another day. No cherry picking from me. I'm a firm believer that when you're called you put your cards on the table for all to see. I'll have to fold with that hand.[/quote]

this is 2006

[Sylvie Hebert]

Now 2012 JimbleBrimble still hiding under his rock and coming out lashing at me as soon as I only post a link to something I did not write or comment?