CIRCULAR QUAY 4-4

[louis finochio]

CIRCULAR QUAY ch. C. 2004
Thunder Gulch---Circle of Life, by Belong to Me

CQ has 8 crosses of Phalaris thru Native Dancer---Nashua---Nearctic (twice)---Raise a Native (twice)---Hail to Reason---and Northern Dancer.

4 crosses of Teddy thru Seven Corners---New Providence---Admirals Voyage and Damascus.

2 crosses of Gainsborough thru Rasper II---and High Hat.

1 cross of Swynford thru Tamerlane.

1 cross of Prince Rose thru Round Table.

CQ has a balance of 8 crosses of Phalaris and 8 crosses of NP, and the speed of Phalaris and stamina of NP.

CQ is inbred 4 X 5 X 5 to Raise a Native.
CQ is inbred 4 X 4 X 5 to Northern Dancer.

CQ is now 4-4 and winner of the GR 1 Hopeful Stakes.

[wilf]

ah yes Louis but do you know where the real Circular Quay is?...........and no Googling!

[Heidilady]

Can someone please help me with the pronunciation? I've heard it pronounced no fewer than 4 ways, 2 of them by Tom Durkin and Randy Moss. Obviously I'm not talking about the word "circular"...

[Lucy]

If he's named for the port in Australia, then it's pronounced 'Kee'. Otherwise, your guess is as good as mine.

[Cree]

I think it should be pronounced "Key". But, I was saying Lyphard's name wrong for 10 years before someone corrected me.

[wilf]

Oh for petes sake its pronounced "key" as in the docking area at a port ..............this particular quay is located in Sydney Harbour and is the central point where all of the ferries that serve the busy waterway load and unload the thousands of lucky commuters each day and it sits between the Harbour Bridge and the Opera House. I say 'Lucky" commuters as its a glorious way to get to and from work even if you do sit in an office all day. Sydney may be a madhouse of commerce but the harbour is still one of natures incredible masterpieces.

[Shammy Davis]

Wilf: Interesting information. Thanks.

[Heidilady]

Ok so Durkin's an idiot and pronounced it wrong and Randy Moss got it right if this is all true. Circular Quay/"Key" sounds like a much better name for a horse than I thought it was by sounding out all the vowels.

Now I'm all wondering about Lyphard cuz I know how I think it's supposed to go but early on in my horse racing fandom I mispronounced Dr. Fager cuz I didn't hear it spoken, just saw it written. We need a key, no pun intended, on how to say unusual names. I get annoyed when people mispronounced Fusaichi Pegasus all the time--when you hear it once you outta remember it cuz it's not that hard after that.

[geowarrior]

Remember that pronunciations can vary from English speaking country to English speaking country, but I believe in most of those countries quay means the same thing - a dock or pier and is pronounced key (or phonetically kee). Even in Scotland (where I'm from and we have funny accents) that's how we say it.

On that topic though, I'd like help with the pronunciation of the name of a famous horse Ogygian, now retired at Old Friends Equine. Apparently it's from Ancient Greek, but that's all greek to me. I sure would like to know how to pronounce this old champion's name correctly. Any help would be appreciated.

And how do you say Dr. Fager and Lyphard? I could have been saying them wrong and not know it!

[Sam]

On that topic though, I'd like help with the pronunciation of the name of a famous horse Ogygian, now retired at Old Friends Equine. Apparently it's from Ancient Greek, but that's all greek to me. I sure would like to know how to pronounce this old champion's name correctly. Any help would be appreciated.

Phonetically: "Oh GUY Gin"

And how do you say Dr. Fager

Hard G A. Doctor "FAYE grr" (not sure if that's the proper phonetic spelling of a hard "gr" sound)

and Lyphard?

"Lee Fard"

The ones that give me fits is Nureyev and Princequillo.

If he's named after the dancer, it should be "new RAY ev" but I always hear it as "nur E ev."

Princequillo to me should be "prin SAH key oh" but most people say "Prince Kwill oh"

And Durkin ALWAYS screws up a horse's name because he's too much of a pompus ass to actually have someone ask the owners how to pronounce it. It'd be one thing if it was some claimer in the Wednesday finale but this was a bloody stakes horse.

[geowarrior]

Ok you can get an amen from this bobblehead because I was pronouncing Lyphard wrongly. And thanks for Ogygian. I just got a newsletter from Old Friends Equine that Ogygian has had one of his eyes removed (it was apparently damaged in a 'breeding accident' in Japan), but he is doing fine.

Never thought about Princequillo - never heard anyone say it since I came to the states, but I pronounced Nureyev ay - ev like the dancer.

[UmmYeah]

In his first couple races, Barbaro was pronounced Bar-BARE-o by the race caller. I kinda doubt anyone would make that mistake now.

[Stevie Belmont]

Any way you say it, he circled the field. Way early, but way impressive.

[geowarrior]

Well they spelled Bernardini's name wrong on his saddlecloth in the Preakness (missed out the r). Probably won't do that again either.

[wilf]

Funnily enough there was a filly running at Woodbine in the nineties called Wooloomooloo which the announcer bungled every time as nobody had clued him in and it really is a mouthful. The connection to this thread is funny as it is an inner city suburb of Sydney that overlooks the harbour, not far from Circular Keeeeeeeee. By the way it is an Aboriginal name and goes something like Wooluhmuhloo and spoken very quickly.The Aussie residents will probably confirm that in time.