Bellamy Road Retired

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Bellamy Road Retired

Postby nancy4487 » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:09 pm

Some news on the missing in action Bellamy Road:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/todays ... 7&subsec=6

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Postby larrygene » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:23 pm

Who wants to breed to a "natural born " cripple at any price?? :roll:

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Postby larrygene » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:23 pm

Who wants to breed to a "natural born " cripple at any price?? :roll:

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Postby Sam » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:23 pm

Well that bites.

$10k is a bit much for a son of Concerto. And comparing him to Red Ransom and Danzig? Whatever.

Best of luck to him, though.

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Postby Cree » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:20 pm

I hate the TC and TC trail. Talented horses get hurt and horses that peak at the right time get labeled as the next superstar.
I know a lot of people don't like arguing over who a horse beat, in this example, we can!
2nd- Survivalist, he hasn't really gotten it together since his big win in the Gotham. Was that as good as it was going to get for him?
3rd- Scrappy T, 2nd in the Preakness, tried to take out Afleet Alex, has done some running, sitting on the fence about him. They are being "conservative" with him, he needs to run, but I think he is just too big and (maybe) heavy to stay sound.
4th- Galloping Grocer, hasn't been the same since him and Rockport Harbor eye-balled each other. Of course, he may have just been a good 2-year-old.
5th- Naughty New Yorker, nothing stellar, but he's solid.
6th-Pavo, hasn't done anything of note.
7th- Going Wild, ruined by the TC, he WAS a nice horse.

So, I don't know about anyone else, but I just never thought Bellamy Road was "great". Yes, he flat out ran in his Wood and he was big and fast, but I don't see the appeal to breeders.

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Postby Sam » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:27 pm

Cree wrote:6th-Pavo, hasn't done anything of note.

Has he done anything, period? I don't think I've seen him since that race. At least not in stakes company.

Cree wrote:So, I don't know about anyone else, but I just never thought Bellamy Road was "great". Yes, he flat out ran in his Wood and he was big and fast, but I don't see the appeal to breeders.

Size matters, even when it shouldn't. I never thought he was "great" but I did think he was brilliant and brilliant speed attracts breeders, at least for a little while. I also think he'd get a better book of mares for $7,500 in FL than he will at $10k in KY.

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Postby reenci » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:39 pm

im a huge yankee fan...just love the yankee stuff you got up...anyways i agree ....7500 in florida would be a much more prudent move :)
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Postby zinn21 » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:28 pm

I thought he showed brilliance and think he will get plenty of mares in Ky. at $10,000.00

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Postby madelyn » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:35 am

I disagree. I think $10K is way too high for this horse and his pedigree.
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Postby FOS » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:32 pm

hi Sam

Sam wrote: Size matters, even when it shouldn't.

Bull's-eye. To those who have doubts...I suggest (for example) try and sell a small but well-made weanling...or yearling...or stallion prospect...then let's talk. Yes there are exceptions...but in general...I agree with Sam's comment that "Size matters."

Sam wrote:I never thought he was "great" but I did think he was brilliant and brilliant speed attracts breeders, at least for a little while. I also think he'd get a better book of mares for $7,500 in FL than he will at $10k in KY.

Bull's-eye again...at least from my perspective.

Respectfully

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Postby siegy » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:13 am

madelyn wrote:I disagree. I think $10K is way too high for this horse and his pedigree.


Hi Madlyn,

Complaining about 10k?

We will see?

Regard's Siegy, :wink:
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Postby Pete » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:16 am

Hi Folks,

Splints and suspensory are not elements of a 'natural born' cripple.

I think he'll have some appeal even with his less than commercial pedigree although I feel that being at a new farm that's trying to build a clientele won't help.

Step back from him for a minute and look at his credentials:
G3 winner at 2, G1 winner and classic placed at 3 in only 7 races. Having been the favorite in the Derby doesn't hurt either.

Sam,

Does the Yankee logo mean that you're a fan?

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Postby Sam » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:47 am

Pete wrote:Sam,

Does the Yankee logo mean that you're a fan?

8) Since Donnie Baseball was a rookie.

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Postby Pete » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:47 am

Hi Sam,

I was a die hard Met fan (since the beginning in 1962) and I hated the Yankees. I softened towards them after the WS loss to the Dodgers in the late 1970s and became a backer during the Mattingly years. By the 2000 Subway Series I found picking a favorite difficult - so I just enjoyed it.

The defining moment for me was "The Play" in the 2001 playoffs vs the Athletics at home plate on Jeremy Giambi (and the very next play when Jeter streaked past Brosius to make the catch only to fall into the photographers box). At that moment Derek Jeter (I already held him in the highest esteem) turned me into a Yankee fan.

So now I'm a pinstripes guy, still difficult to get my head around after a childhood spent loathing them. I still like the Mets, watch and root for them but Jeter made me a believer after almost 40 years. Go Yankees!

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Postby Ill-bred » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:59 am

10k seems pretty reasonable to me.