Discreet Cat - Overated?
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Discreet Cat - Overated?
He didn't run a jump today - is he overrated?
No, he's not overrated. He's already accomplished enough to show he's a very good horse....he defeated older horses in a grade 1 with ease, he defeated INVASOR last year in Dubai. He's apparently not a very sound horse, from the huge gaps in his race career, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he's a very talented horse. Todays race was too bad to be true...word was out earlier this week that he didnt look great, so it was not a surprise to many that he ran that way.
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DC connections changed their tatctics on race day. When you have a fresh horse that wants to run on the front end, just let him roll out of the gate and he will give it his all.
When you try and rate a front runner by taking him back , a Tb will fight the jockey from trying to take a hold to rate him and the reserve energy that DC had before the race will be drained and taken out of him by fighting the jockey
This will result in a tired DC, and thats why he threw in the towel. I blame his connections for their miscalcutions in Dubai.
When you try and rate a front runner by taking him back , a Tb will fight the jockey from trying to take a hold to rate him and the reserve energy that DC had before the race will be drained and taken out of him by fighting the jockey
This will result in a tired DC, and thats why he threw in the towel. I blame his connections for their miscalcutions in Dubai.
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He quite simply can't have been so overrated that all 6 other horses in the race were truly better and we just didn't know it--Invasor and Premium Tap did what I expected them to do and a totally fit Discreet Cat should've been 3rd or so since there's legitimate reason to think the other two are just better. Can't deny their run in the Classic. DC wasn't 3rd or better so I'm not going to dog on the poor horse til I know what's going on. If they just throw their hands in the air and go 'we dunno' that would then bother me.
He's got the slight frame issue but clearly you don't do what he did in this race without there being something wrong. I want to know how he comes out of it. You knew there was a problem though from the minute he got out of the gate. It just felt wrong. Would be terrible if we lost Bernardini to the shed and DC decided to just be in the crapper all year. It's not like I expect DC to be the next Seattle Slew in the shed or something so what else is there?
He's got the slight frame issue but clearly you don't do what he did in this race without there being something wrong. I want to know how he comes out of it. You knew there was a problem though from the minute he got out of the gate. It just felt wrong. Would be terrible if we lost Bernardini to the shed and DC decided to just be in the crapper all year. It's not like I expect DC to be the next Seattle Slew in the shed or something so what else is there?
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Not a good day for Taylor Made and Forestry, huh?
What synthetics are to California racing:
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louis finochio wrote:DC connections changed their tatctics on race day. When you have a fresh horse that wants to run on the front end, just let him roll out of the gate and he will give it his all.
When you try and rate a front runner by taking him back , a Tb will fight the jockey from trying to take a hold to rate him and the reserve energy that DC had before the race will be drained and taken out of him by fighting the jockey
This will result in a tired DC, and thats why he threw in the towel. I blame his connections for their miscalcutions in Dubai.
Exactly, maybe the poll should be was the race over rated?
$12.00 and change for the exacta was a gift. 
..poor DC looked kind of thin to me...and for sure the rating tactics were a bust...he would not rate....no matter he was not going to beat INVASOR today or PT for that matter who by the way ran his eye balls out
..poor DC looked kind of thin to me...and for sure the rating tactics were a bust...he would not rate....no matter he was not going to beat INVASOR today or PT for that matter who by the way ran his eye balls outA great man cannot help himself," "He can see things that other men cannot see themselves, and his greatness lies in doing whatever is necessary to make his vision real
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DC's not necessarily overrated so much as overhyped. Until he runs a big race against big horses in their prime he's just a very talented horse. He ran a huge race in the Cigar, but the other horses were either past their prime or over their heads. He never should have ran today, if a horse can't be ready for his prep race, he isn't going to be ready for the big one. JMO.
Dave C wrote:DC's not necessarily overrated so much as overhyped. Until he runs a big race against big horses in their prime he's just a very talented horse. He ran a huge race in the Cigar, but the other horses were either past their prime or over their heads. He never should have ran today, if a horse can't be ready for his prep race, he isn't going to be ready for the big one. JMO.
Is it bad that when my partner called me to tell me the result not only was he laughing his ass off, but so was I? Hell, I was inclined to do a little jig.
Gutless, overhyped... the adjectives just go on and on and are very fitting. I've said it before and I'll said it again, if this horse were all the hype would have us believe, he would NOT have skipped the Breeders' Cup.
So when do we hear about a career ending injury? I'm thinking about setting the over/under at 4 weeks.
You people are brutal...
From Godolphin Website
Following Discreet Cat’s disappointing performance in the Dubai World Cup last night (Saturday, March, 31), he has undergone a complete veterinary check at Al Quoz Stables this morning.
This included an endoscopic examination of his respiratory tract, which revealed an obstructive granulomatous mass within his throat, in addition to significant swelling of the underlying throat wall, as a result of an infective process.
In the opinion of the Godolphin veterinary surgeons, this would have affected his performance, firstly by physically obstructing the airflow into his throat and lungs, and secondly by causing him significant discomfort. He is now undergoing appropriate treatment and assessments.
Discreet Cat had a routine endoscopic examination performed of his respiratory airways earlier in the week, and no abnormalities were found.
From Godolphin Website
From Godolphin Website
Following Discreet Cat’s disappointing performance in the Dubai World Cup last night (Saturday, March, 31), he has undergone a complete veterinary check at Al Quoz Stables this morning.
This included an endoscopic examination of his respiratory tract, which revealed an obstructive granulomatous mass within his throat, in addition to significant swelling of the underlying throat wall, as a result of an infective process.
In the opinion of the Godolphin veterinary surgeons, this would have affected his performance, firstly by physically obstructing the airflow into his throat and lungs, and secondly by causing him significant discomfort. He is now undergoing appropriate treatment and assessments.
Discreet Cat had a routine endoscopic examination performed of his respiratory airways earlier in the week, and no abnormalities were found.
From Godolphin Website