Cockney Rebel wins 2000 Guineas

[geowarrior]

Cockney Rebel (Val Royal) who is trained by the former drummer for Mungo Jerry (anyone remember them?) won the 2000 guineas today in a big upset, and in the third fastest time ever. Vital Equine was second and Dutch Art was third. It will probably make Rokeby happy to know that Coolmore was shut out.

[CA Michael]

And to even the score with the Brits, whose Street Cry sired our Derby winner, the dam of the 2000 winner was the American bred Factice, by Known Fact-Wacky Princess by Miswaki. The strong Widener family of RARE PERFUME.

[geowarrior]

Well they're all still crying in their Guiness over there about the loss of Teofilo who looks unlikely for the Derby, and who now won't bother with the St. Leger, now that he's skipped the first leg of the T.C.

Sangue Veccio, you need to hurry and breed your British T.C. winner before they abolish it altogether!

[Lucy]

Cockney Rebel (Val Royal) who is trained by the former drummer for Mungo Jerry (anyone remember them?)

Not only that, but he's named for a pretty decent glam rock band from the 70's. That critter was the best music-geek hunch play since Giacomo.

[wallinga]

Finsceal Beo handed the girls their taints in the 1000 guineas too. In the fastest time ever for a guineas, 2000 or 1000. Mr Greeley is really going so well. He flopped even worse than woodman in Australia, I don't think we could afford him now.

[Sheikh]

Two of the best Guineas winners I've seen. I doubt Teofilo would have beaten Cockeny Rebel anyway.

[wallinga]

I think the draw helped in the 2000 guineas. Beo was awesome though

[Maven]

And to even the score with the Brits, whose Street Cry sired our Derby winner, the dam of the 2000 winner was the American bred Factice, by Known Fact-Wacky Princess by Miswaki. The strong Widener family of RARE PERFUME.

I have a very nice Lemon Drop Kid 3yo filly that's tail female to Rare Perfume... her 5th dam through Rare Treat.

[Bill from WA]

Illustrious female family (Fusaichi Pegasus, Jaipur, Pine Bluff, Ruffian, Storm Cat, and Broodmares of the Year, Shenanigans and Potheen, et al).

Bill

[pilsudski]

I think the draw helped in the 2000 guineas. Beo was awesome though

there was no bias,sprint later on saw high numbers win and come 2nd.the only bias was a masssive early pace one in the 2000 which suited the held up types,so vital euine who came 2nd as did remarkably well as he was responsibe for forcing it and at one point was well clear.

as for finsceal beo,she set a guineas record,around ,1.5 secs faster than other 1000 guineas and beat the record set by msiter baileys in 1993 in the 2000.she is the real deal and i would say she could beat the colts.

[louis finochio]

FB is an example of a mating that produces hybrid vigor and soundness.
I attribute her fast time to the Phalaris on top and Fair Play through Known Fact on the bottom.

FB is from the same cross that produced Ghostzapper, Phalaris over Fair Play, which is an outcross which gives the blood vigor and will elimanate the over done inbreeding to Phalaris through those inbreedings to Northern Dancer, RAN, Native Dancer, Mr. P and Bold Ruler.

To all those Euro breeders that havent culled those NP BMS, hold on to them as they will become a rare commodity as the Phalaris fashion parade marches on to takes it toll on unsoundness.

[parlo]

According to the enthusiasm to your mission, you mixed it up, @Louis!

If "FB" in your posting was Finsceal Beo, she has no Known Fact in her ped. In a 4-gen-ped I found 7 of 8 sire-lines tracing to Phalaris, in only a slight review I found at least 15 crosses of Phalaris.

Whereas Cockney Rebel out of a Known Fact-mare has a least 18 crosses of Phalaris.

And how many crosses of St. Simon these latest Guineas-winner have?

[louis finochio]

I researched Cockney Rebel and I had his pedigree in mind when I post about FB. Sorry I will keep my nose to the grindstone and get it right.

[parlo]

Looks like Royal Academy, Mr. Prospector and Bold Ruler play prominent roles in the Guineas-Winners of 2007. Just incidentally or is there some substance in this observation?

Btw: Street Sence and Finsceal Beo share a close relation in their dam-lines. Probably an unique feature in two important winners within 24 hours.

[Maven]

I've always thought Royal Academy would have a much longer lasting effect on pedigrees than people give him credit for. He should be a stellar broodmare sire, especially now with polytrack.