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Mother Goose Stakes

Postby Georgerz » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:50 pm

Well, they just run the Mother Goose Stakes, and the winner was Octave, now a GRI winning daughter of Unbridled's Song. Rokeby, what happenned with Boca Grande, she really got trashed today (again).

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:15 pm

Speed favoring track...but from 4th in the Acorn, she was 3rd in the Mother Goose - set up perfectly for the CCAO, her real goal.
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Postby Sam » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:19 pm

:roll:

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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:23 pm

horses's aren't machines.. just because a horse ran 2nd 5 times in GRADE 1's in the past doesn't mean she was going to do so again. everytime she got beat, she got beat by VERY good horses.

As for Rok......tisk tisk


The Suburban might be the worst ran Grade 1 in the history of horse racing. Every horse looked like they just left a bar at 5 in the morning coming down the lane.

Corinthian something wasn't right with him.... than again maybe he just had an attitude today.

better hurry to that shed before the door closes!

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Postby sunday_silence » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:27 pm

Not sure if it was Carolyn Conley or Joanne Jones (I wasn't watching, just listening), but one of them said earlier on HRTV that Corinthian has been sold. Not sure if she meant for stud or also the racing career. She didn't share any further info.

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Postby Barbaro06 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:29 pm

Yeah, the Suburban was an odd race...looked liked they were going in slow motion or something. As for Corinthian, he had no response whatsoever. I give the jockey credit for not beating the horse to get moving when it was obvious the horse was going nowhere.
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:45 pm

sunday_silence wrote:Not sure if it was Carolyn Conley or Joanne Jones (I wasn't watching, just listening), but one of them said earlier on HRTV that Corinthian has been sold. Not sure if she meant for stud or also the racing career. She didn't share any further info.


had to be to stud.. and I don't blame em either... assumine he races to the end of the year.

when they are on tv, I'm not really paying attention to what is said :)

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Postby sunday_silence » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:49 pm

The chart just came up for the Mother Goose. Boca Grande was 38 1/2 lengths behind Lady Joanne. I realize it was a fast pace, but still. I don't see how that kind of race sets her up "perfectly" for the CCA Oaks. I think the bare facts may be that she just ain't a first tier filly. Or, a second tier one, either, if you look at Rags to Riches as being by herself on the first tier.

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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:56 pm

sunday_silence wrote:The chart just came up for the Mother Goose. Boca Grande was 38 1/2 lengths behind Lady Joanne. I realize it was a fast pace, but still. I don't see how that kind of race sets her up "perfectly" for the CCA Oaks. I think the bare facts may be that she just ain't a first tier filly. Or, a second tier one, either, if you look at Rags to Riches as being by herself on the first tier.


:lol:

what do you tell the owners after that?

"yeah, the track was cuppy"

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:03 pm

Um...the 4th filly was 38 lengths behind Boca Grande. Sorry to rain on your parade, but take another look at the chart.
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Postby sunday_silence » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:07 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:Um...the 4th filly was 38 lengths behind Boca Grande. Sorry to rain on your parade, but take another look at the chart.


Ooops, my bad. Was looking at the wrong line. But, for future reference, I have no parade or agenda. Unlike some, I am not looking for things to prove my tightly held biases. I actually wanted Boca Grande to win today.

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Postby Maven » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:09 pm

Once again, the "world beater" that is Boca Grande has proven a step below in G1 company. Rok has trashed Octave every chance he's gotten and talked up the might BG as the best 3 yo filly in the country. I really hope you can at least admit she's the one who's second tier, not the consistent Octave.
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Postby sunday_silence » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:13 pm

I'm not a fan of Rags to Riches in the least, but I don't see how one can fail to acknowledge that she's in a class by herself in this group of fillies. For some reason (must've had her mixed up with Wait a While), I thought Octave was by Maria's Mon 'til I pulled up her pedigree on here.

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Postby Sam » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:13 pm

Maven wrote:I really hope you can at least admit she's the one who's second tier, not the consistent Octave.

You don't ask for much, do you :wink:

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Postby Maven » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:15 pm

I can't help it Sam! He's like a walking herpe... annoying and irritating as hell... not that I would know from person experience! :lol:
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