Sea The Stars To Stand in Aga Khan's Gilltown Stud

wangkw · Postby **wangkw** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:04 am

The first book comprises 120 mares..among them is wonder lady Zarkava, the vainqueur of the 2008 Arc...the
cover fee is said to be Euro 85,000.

All eyes on what Sea The Stars and Zarkava will produce..both have perfect 7 for 7 in stake races.

wangkw · Postby **wangkw** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:59 am

Just this first book already means a 16 million dollar business.

UmmYeah · Postby **UmmYeah** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:28 am

That's assuming that all 120 mares will net the full 85,000 Euro fee, which is quite the big assumption. Even if you assume that there will be no discounts, some of those mares will be "free" breedings, because the mares are owned by the Tsui family or the farm.

BenB · Postby **BenB** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:10 pm

How it is gooiing to continue will be unfolded next year but at that fee, he will be a hot sire in europe.

Certainly he will get payments for at least a hundred, so that will be 13 miljoen dollar.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:02 pm

Congrats to: The Aga Khan, who pursues excellence in his bloodstock, of Non-Fashion.

dublino · Postby **dublino** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:27 am

louis finochio wrote:Congrats to: The Aga Khan, who pursues excellence in his bloodstock, of Non-Fashion.

Yes a NF Northern Dancer over Mr Prospector?
Time to take your meds Louis this is about as Fashionable as it gets.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:37 am

STS has an outcross pedigree with no dupe of Inbreeding, the Mr. P & ND is just a pebble in a pond. When u have a cluster of those Mr. P, ND thru Inbreeding u create unsoundness, it's called Fashion Breeding.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:50 pm

dublino wrote:
louis finochio wrote:Congrats to: The Aga Khan, who pursues excellence in his bloodstock, of Non-Fashion.

Yes a NF Northern Dancer over Mr Prospector?
Time to take your meds Louis this is about as Fashionable as it gets.

you can't have a TB these days without interlocking the two

teh difference between fasionable and non fasion is the amount of times they are crossed and the amount of inbreeding.

seeing how many times you can fit storm cat and ap indy int he same pedigree is fasionable which sea the stars does not.

dublino · Postby **dublino** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:10 am

bdw0617 wrote:you can't have a TB these days without interlocking the two

the Aga Khans other stallions.
Azamour
http://www.pedigreequery.com/azamour

Dalakhani
http://www.pedigreequery.com/dalakhani

Linngari
http://www.pedigreequery.com/linngari

Sinndar
http://www.pedigreequery.com/sinndar

Not one is MrP over Northern Dancer or vice versa
And all G1 winners also.
It can be done........

JYS · Postby **JYS** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:15 am

There's tons of very good stallions that are not only fashionable, but very successful that are completely free of Northern Dancer and Mr. Prospector.

Look no further than Dyanformer.

kimberley mine · Postby **kimberley mine** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:58 pm

Dublino, Sea the Stars is actually an outcross for the Aga Khan's breeding program. All of their other stallions (and many of their mares) trace back to Mill Reef.

dublino · Postby **dublino** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:55 am

kimberley mine wrote:Dublino, Sea the Stars is actually an outcross for the Aga Khan's breeding program. All of their other stallions (and many of their mares) trace back to Mill Reef.

I wouldn't exactly call him an outcross, but I know what you are saying regarding Mill Reef.

erins isle · Postby **erins isle** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:13 am

STS has a very interesting pedigree. We all know what a great dam he has got, but look at his sire: Cape Cross's dam is Park Appeal, a success on the race track, and as a broodmare. She is a daughter of one of the surprises in breeding: Ahonoora, who stood at stud in his first year for only £1.750. Well, we know all what a success he turned out to be and of course he is an outcross for the ND breed.

I have every faith in it that STS will be a great success at stud.

parlo · Postby **parlo** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:16 am

@Eris Isle: That you for that posting - the best concerning this topic for long.

STS was a wonderful racehorse out of formidable ancestors. He offers great opportunities - let's hope the magic goes on with (some of) his offsprings.

Off course there is no guarantee - but all traffic lights shine green by now.

BTW: I was not convinced that STS would win the Arc - but more from the a bettor's point of view (18:10 was no good value for me in a field of 19 high-class horses at the end of a long season, referring the 30+:10 for the places for Youmzain and Cavalryman and the hype on STS) - nevertheless how he won that race should have removed all doubts.

wangkw · Postby **wangkw** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:14 pm

Just curious..references were often made to ND..but has never seen Lorenzaccio being mentioned..he was born 4 years
later than ND..winning races from 6f to 12f..and in 1970 beat ND's proud son Nijinsky in the fall immediately after the
later's triple crown feat..that marked the first of the 2 big defeats of the King and possibly led to his retirement after he
was again unsuccessful in the Arc raid that followed shortly after..

LORENZACCIO is the grandfather of STS'S grandmother. Of the 144 progenies..only 40 are males..a very faminine-heavy
sire. I wonder there is or was another sire like him. Quite an interesting finding indeed.

As to his son Ahonoora, he was successful in a few graded races, but all btw 5f to 6f. Of the very long list of Ahonoora's
progenies, some are indeed successful over mid to long distances..Dr Devious, UK Derby winner, headed the money list.

Just some facts..not view.

:lol: