proof that pletcher does not care

[bdw0617]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/108840.html


i don't know how this works but i am giong to give you a direct quote from the article that pletcher is talking about devil may care, the filly that lost in the breeders cup juvenlle fillies

Pletcher said it was evident from the start that Devil May Care - who won the Grade 1 Frizette at Belmont - was not enjoying her synthetic experience.

"She was the most obvious case, she never traveled well on it," he said. "We knew going into the first turn she was not going to run the same race that she had been running on the dirt."

IF YOU KNOW SHE IS GOING TO RUN UP THE TRACK, WHY DO YOU EVEN BOTHER SENDING HER THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

[LB]

IF YOU KNOW SHE IS GOING TO RUN UP THE TRACK, WHY DO YOU EVEN BOTHER SENDING HER THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Here's another quote from that article:

"Same thing as we thought going in - until you run on it you don't know," said trainer Todd Pletcher...

By the time he knew she wasn't going to run well on the surface, it was too late. She was already in the race.

[LittleCurrent]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/108840.html


i don't know how this works but i am giong to give you a direct quote from the article that pletcher is talking about devil may care, the filly that lost in the breeders cup juvenlle fillies

Pletcher said it was evident from the start that Devil May Care - who won the Grade 1 Frizette at Belmont - was not enjoying her synthetic experience.

"She was the most obvious case, she never traveled well on it," he said. "We knew going into the first turn she was not going to run the same race that she had been running on the dirt."

IF YOU KNOW SHE IS GOING TO RUN UP THE TRACK, WHY DO YOU EVEN BOTHER SENDING HER THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I have wondered that very same thing myself! On another forum, a poster made a rather long, pity filled post, lamenting the synt track, and how "so many horses than ran were punished this BC because of this track". Well, who is punishing who? Who took them, knowing that it wasn't their surface? If you knew your horses would be uncomfortable on it, and not perform up to par, why would you go on with them? I wouldn't do that to my horse, and cloud his race record. Why not save the money and wear and tear on your horse and not go? That's what some trainers and owners did, knowing they didn't like the surface.

[geowarrior]

The reason the horses were sent and ran is because the trainers that sent them subscribe to the concept that the Breeders' Cup is the world championship, no matter where it's run, and true competitors don't shirk the competition. Gary Player made the analogy with golf and it's a good one, you don't shirk the British Open one year because it's held on a difficult links course like the Old Course at St. Andrews, you compete on it whether it's Gleneagles, Troon, St. Andrews or whatever is decided, because it's the championship and you're a competitor. If you don't compete, you can't win.

A lot of these discussions seem to assume that all synthetics are the same and all dirt tracks are the same. Not true, some horses have lost the Belmont because they don't take to Old Sandy, some can't handle the true sand at Tampa etc. etc. Similarly Life Is Sweet didn't like the Del Mar synthetic but runs well on Santa Anita synthetic. This is horse racing, for goodness sake, and until the race is run you can't know what's going to happen.

[Aug27]

Excellent points / post, geowarrior.
Easy Goer didn't like Churchill, as another example.

[oliverstoned]

Excellent points / post, geowarrior.
Easy Goer didn't like Churchill, as another example.

Alysheba didn't like running without Lasix but he tried. Zenyatta didn't like running on a muddy track but she.....uh..never mind

[bdw0617]

Excellent points / post, geowarrior.
Easy Goer didn't like Churchill, as another example.

Alysheba didn't like running without Lasix but he tried. Zenyatta didn't like running on a muddy track but she.....uh..never mind

there is "not liking".. pimlico wasn't rachael's best surface but she was still a world class horse over the surface.

I think it was pyro... pyro looked like a show horse hopping over the surface. he wanted no part of the surface.

there is not prefering the sufrace and "this horse isnt' even in the same class on this surface". devil may care was in that class. didn't even want to put her feet down in it.

[Lucy]

Excellent points / post, geowarrior.
Easy Goer didn't like Churchill, as another example.

Neither did Point Given. Cost him the Triple Crown, IMO.