), I would try not to punish the rider. Both sides need each other and struggle to keep everyone happy.Verbal Contract from Jockey Agent?
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He does not HAVE to, but if he agrees to and then doesn't it is called "spinning" you and you could go to the stewards. However, do you want to try to force a rider to stay on your horse when he wants to ride another? It is very unprofessional behavior on their part, but I would usually let the guy off if it is a barn who he usually rides for but has not given first call, or if it a struggling rider offered a favorite for a barn he is trying to get into. If he rides "first call" for you, meaning he automatically agrees to ride all you enter and you ride him/her on all you enter, then he/she can't get out, nor can you without prior agreement. Even if the behavior is unprofessional on the part of the agent (who should take the blame for everything ), I would try not to punish the rider. Both sides need each other and struggle to keep everyone happy.
), I would try not to punish the rider. Both sides need each other and struggle to keep everyone happy.In general when an agent/trainer agree to the ride it's a done deal. The jock then has "the call" to ride the horse. This is all done verbally. Sometimes an agent or jock commit to ride two horses when communication is not what it should be. Sometimes an agent/jock decide after accepting the call that they want to ride another horse in the same race because they think the other horse is better. Both those scenarios fall under the category called "spinning" the trainer.
Most jocks and agents honor their calls. It is all done on a verbal agreement. There is little upside to constantly switching mounts after a call is accepted and it is not done to any large degree. But this part of the game is an inexact science and owner/trainer will likely get spun at some point in time depending on how in demand the rider is; how organized the jock agent is and where the trainer is in the pecking order. Of course a good horse will likely never get spun regardless of circumstances..
Most jocks and agents honor their calls. It is all done on a verbal agreement. There is little upside to constantly switching mounts after a call is accepted and it is not done to any large degree. But this part of the game is an inexact science and owner/trainer will likely get spun at some point in time depending on how in demand the rider is; how organized the jock agent is and where the trainer is in the pecking order. Of course a good horse will likely never get spun regardless of circumstances..
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Laurierace
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Laurierace wrote:The number one job requirement for a jock agent is the ability to lie with a straight face. I am a big believer in not wanting anyone on my horse that doesn't want to be there though. If they want to go elsewhere you wish them well and move on to someone else.
I agree. Why keep someone on because their other horse's trainer "forgot" to give them the call early enough? While it is unprofessional, it happens. A good agent can keep everyone pacified without costing their rider future business.
You can go to the stewards but they cant do nothing. Never have and never will. And if you do go to the stewards then you will be black balled so its not worth it.
The agents job is to put the jock on the best horse. If it takes spinning a trainer then so be it. Every trainer has been spun in this game its part of the game get over it.
The agents job is to put the jock on the best horse. If it takes spinning a trainer then so be it. Every trainer has been spun in this game its part of the game get over it.