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breeders cup classic

Postby endspurt stables » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:37 am

Blame
Gio Ponti
Goldikova
General Quarters
I Want Revenge
Mine That Bird
Quality Road
Rail Trip
Rachel Alexandra
Zenyatta


Rachel Alexandra sets a track and world record to win a second Horse of the Year!! Congrats!!

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Postby zinn21 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:24 pm

Rachel Alexandra sets a track and world record to win a second Horse of the Year!! Congrats!!


Quite an imagination but that field would leave Rachel empty @ Churchill with a quarter mile to go..

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Postby Lisann » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:44 pm

Plus, no way Goldikova tries 10f on DIRT

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Postby LB » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:01 pm

I see maybe 2 or 3 of those horses running in the BC Classic.

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Postby Bid » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:45 pm

If you move Zenyatta to the top you might have the entire order of finish. :D

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Postby bdw0617 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:05 am

Enshin Flash will be in the race, the horse that on the japan dirt cup last year, he's being pointed towards the race
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Postby Carlo Algatrensig » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:38 pm

Lisann wrote:Plus, no way Goldikova tries 10f on DIRT


I agree with you that i doubt she will go for the Classic but given she has nothing left to prove over a mile on turf it would be great to see her give it a try.
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Postby Bill from WA » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:56 am

CONDUIT MARE STAMINA NUMBERS
BC CLASSIC (SINCE 1990)

2009: Zenyatta: (Artless) (C) (0.62)
2008: Raven’s Pass: (Lygie) (I/S) (0.73)
2007: Curlin: (Siberia) (P) (0.80)
2006: Invasor: (Pretty Polly) (S) (0.41)
2005: Saint Liam: (Lygie) (I/S) (0.65)
2004: Ghostzapper: (Nature) (I/S) (0.76)
2003: Pleasantly Perfect: (Plucky Liege) (0.76)
2002: Volponi: (Glad Tidings) (S) (0.77)
2001: Tiznow: (Eglantine) (B/S) (0.77)
2000: Tiznow: (See above)
1999: Cat Thief: (Miss Minnie) (C/S) (0.99)
1998: Awesome Again: (Change) (C/S) (1.15)
1997: Skip Away: (Honora) (I/S) (0.78)
1996: Alphabet Soup: (Popinjay) (S) (0.54)
1995: Cigar: (Flaming Vixen) (B/P) (0.42)
1994: Concern: (Election Bet) (B) (0.99)
1993: Arcangues: (Carina) (C/S) (0.44)
1992: A.P. Indy: (Rambling Rose) (B/P) (0.73)
1991: Black Tie Affair: (Saint Astra) (B/P) (0.81)
1990: Unbridled: (Fricassee) (I/S) (0.84)

POTENTIAL STARTERS

Rachel Alexandra: (Query) (C/S) (0.97)
Blame: (Simon’s Shoes) (I/P) (0.78)
Gio Ponti: (Flaming Vixen) (B/P) (0.95)
Goldikova: (Our Lassie) (I/S) (0.78)
General Quarters: (Olympia) (I/P) (0.84)
I Want Revenge: (Finta) (B/I) (0.88)
Mine That Bird: (Broom Flower) (I/S) (0.85)
Quality Road: (Frizette) (B/P) (0.87)
Rail Trip: (Sweet Marjoram ) (S) (0.95)
Zenyatta: (Artless) (C) (0.62)
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Postby Georgerz » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:20 am

Hi, Bill: I apologize for the ignorant question, but which is best: 0.97 or 0.62?

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Postby Bill from WA » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:37 am

Hi

The lower the number, the more percieved stamina. Of the 20 past winners of the BC Classic, 14 winners had a Stamina Index of .80 or lower, only 1 had a stamina number over 1.00 (that being Awesome Again, who is emerging as a stallion that can transmit stamina despite his relatively high number of 1.15). 17 winners had a stamina number under .90, and only 3 (Awesome Again, Cat Thief, and Concern) had an Index over .90.
The Index has nothing to do with athletic talent or a pace scenerio that might affect the outcome of the race, it's just an attempt to evaluate particular influences, based on my research into the female family contributions within a pedigree.
Hope this helps.

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