Paddy O' Prado Retired

TJ · Postby TJ » Mon May 23, 2011 10:49 am

Paddy O' Prado is to be retired after he showed signs of lameness while cooling out in the test barn at Pimlico after winning the Dixie on Preakness day. TJ

http://www.drf.com/news/paddy-oprado-re ... oid-injury

Crystal · Postby **Crystal** » Mon May 23, 2011 11:19 am

..just another unsound TB stud.. awesome.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:38 pm

turf horse no less

ElPrado · Postby **ElPrado** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:38 pm

Yeah, an unsound horse because he was born in the USA? He's a grandson of Sadlers Wells, who owned Europe for most of his 30 years.

zinn21 · Postby **zinn21** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:22 pm

What a shame. Such a nice colt.

zinn21 · Postby **zinn21** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:39 pm

Crystal wrote:

..just another unsound TB stud.. awesome.

Dale Romans begs to disagree. From a Bloodhorse article:

"We think he’ll make a great sire and really could have an impact on American racing in the future. He’s a big, strong, sound horse. It’s just a bad step type of injury.”

Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... z1NEmoPxZH

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:30 pm

The pedigree of PADDY O'PRADO is carrying one the most beautiful
recollection of great tough campaigners not usually seen on pedigrees
today. Here some names:

Petare (1951)
Rustom Pasha (1927)
Occupy (1941)
Classic Go Go (1978)
Humpty Dumpty (1953)
Crimson Satan (1959)
My Dad George (1967)
Ambehaving (1954)
The Rhymer (1938)
Oil Capitol (1947)

True, those powerful racing names are not that fashionable among breeders, but since Paddy O'Prado is a son of El Prado, he may have what it takes to blossom on this side of the Atlantic. Only time will tell.

Fingers crossed!

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Tue May 24, 2011 5:29 am

zinn21 wrote:Crystal wrote:

..just another unsound TB stud.. awesome.

Dale Romans begs to disagree. From a Bloodhorse article:

"We think he’ll make a great sire and really could have an impact on American racing in the future. He’s a big, strong, sound horse. It’s just a bad step type of injury.”

Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... z1NEmoPxZH

and the economy tanked because of 9-11, not tax cuts combined with funding 2 wars :roll:

before romans knew this was a career ending injury he told one publication that "it took a while to get him right but we finally got him going, just a little later than we would have liked", now he is saying it's "a bad step injury"

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Tue May 24, 2011 5:49 am

We often forget that sesamoid fractures and injury are one of the most common injuries in Thoroughbred and Standardbred racehores. There is good reason for that. There are no muscles in the leg below the knee or the hock. The lower leg to the hoof is all bone, cartilage, tendon and supporting lubrication and cushions like the bursa . It is completely suspensory. The modern horse walks and runs on its 3rd digit. The sesamoids, like splint bones, are vestigal remains of the early evolution of the horse with multiple digits. Injury to sesamoids can occur from simple "wear and tear."

The term "unsound" applies only to the fact that a horse is unable to perform, and because all horses are the same in the case of sesamoids, does not indicate that the unsoundness is transmitted genetically or conformationally to its progeny.

LB · Postby LB » Tue May 24, 2011 6:10 am

Paddy O'Prado had 10 starts in his 3 year old campaign, always in the highest company--six G1s, two G2s, and one G3--with earnings of 1.6M. If that doesn't show durability I don't know what does.

He took a few months off to refresh, came back and won a G2, in the process sustaining the kind of injury that can happen to any horse any time. I certainly wouldn't certainly wouldn't call him "just another unsound TB".

TJ · Postby TJ » Tue May 24, 2011 8:14 am

Shammy Davis wrote:We often forget that sesamoid fractures and injury are one of the most common injuries in Thoroughbred and Standardbred racehores. There is good reason for that. There are no muscles in the leg below the knee or the hock. The lower leg to the hoof is all bone, cartilage, tendon and supporting lubrication and cushions like the bursa . It is completely suspensory. The modern horse walks and runs on its 3rd digit. The sesamoids, like splint bones, are vestigal remains of the early evolution of the horse with multiple digits. Injury to sesamoids can occur from simple "wear and tear."

The term "unsound" applies only to the fact that a horse is unable to perform, and because all horses are the same in the case of sesamoids, does not indicate that the unsoundness is transmitted genetically or conformationally to its progeny.

Hi Shammy,
I thought you may be confusing the Splint bones with the sesamoid bones. Isn't it the splint bones that are on either side of the cannon bone which is the vestigal remains of the early evolution of the horse's multiple digited hooves of it's ancestors.....I never heard of the sesamoids also....do you have a link? Thanks....TJ

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Tue May 24, 2011 8:25 am

TJ: No the sesamoid bones are the remnants of the earlier digits. No confusion. We don't hear about this much today but some of my older texts (circa 1960 and before) speak to this. As a student farrier I was also taught this. One reference that I have at hand is the Charles W. Raker, VMD presentation on EQUINE ORTHOPEDICS to the Stud Managers Course in Lexington, KY in November 1962.

TJ wrote:

. . . I never heard of the sesamoids also....

Not sure what you mean? Sesamoids; short "farrier and horse" colloquialism for sesamoid bones? The 2 small pyramid shaped sesamoid bones are located at the back of the fetlock joint (long pastern bone) next to the cannon bone. They act as fulcrum for the ligaments and tendons which support and move the leg. Also see sesamoiditis and popped sesamoid bone.

TJ · Postby TJ » Tue May 24, 2011 10:26 am

Shammy Davis wrote:TJ: No the sesamoid bones are the remnants of the earlier digits. No confusion. We don't hear about this much today but some of my older texts (circa 1960 and before) speak to this. As a student farrier I was also taught this. One reference that I have at hand is the Charles W. Raker, VMD presentation on EQUINE ORTHOPEDICS to the Stud Managers Course in Lexington, KY in November 1962.

TJ wrote:
. . . I never heard of the sesamoids also....

Not sure what you mean? Sesamoids; short "farrier and horse" colloquialism for sesamoid bones? The 2 small pyramid shaped sesamoid bones are located at the back of the fetlock joint (long pastern bone) next to the cannon bone. They act as fulcrum for the ligaments and tendons which support and move the leg. Also see sesamoiditis and popped sesamoid bone.

Hi Shammy,
I probably confused you, I meant sesamoid bones....as I've said, I've never heard of the sesamoid bones as being remnants of evolution, I only knew of the splint bones. Many times when I'd have a horse that had chronic splint problems, I would just have the splint bone removed as it is a useless remnant anyway:>). On the other hand the sesamoids certainly are not and they are real trouble once you have a problem with them, seems they will always come back to haunt you just when you think they are ready to run again. I will try to locate that text and thank you. TJ

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Tue May 24, 2011 5:44 pm

LB wrote:Paddy O'Prado had 10 starts in his 3 year old campaign, always in the highest company--six G1s, two G2s, and one G3--with earnings of 1.6M. If that doesn't show durability I don't know what does.

He took a few months off to refresh, came back and won a G2, in the process sustaining the kind of injury that can happen to any horse any time. I certainly wouldn't certainly wouldn't call him "just another unsound TB".

few months? try 7

Terrapin Flyer · Postby **Terrapin Flyer** » Tue May 24, 2011 6:47 pm

Paddy O'Prado had 10 starts in his 3 year old campaign, always in the highest company--six G1s, two G2s, and one G3--with earnings of 1.6M. If that doesn't show durability I don't know what does.

He took a few months off to refresh, came back and won a G2, in the process sustaining the kind of injury that can happen to any horse any time. I certainly wouldn't certainly wouldn't call him "just another unsound TB"

I agree LB. Anyone who wants to question Romans' comment, should go walk the Pimlico turf course. It's like a motorcross course, and given all the rain they had this spring and the week leading up to Preakness it was not the safest strip you could race a horse on. This injury could have happened to a number of horses this weekend.