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Postby Patuxet » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:22 am

Scat Daddy colt trained by Aidan O'Brien wins the UAE Derby on Tapeta. Talk is that he'll go in the KY Derby.
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:28 am

i don't' think he will take to the dirt that well. plus the change in climate, etc. going to have to beat me.

really happy for scat daddy. always thought he was very underrated as a race horse
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Postby Patuxet » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:05 am

bdwwrote: "really happy for scat daddy. always thought he was very underrated as a race horse"

Ditto!. Also delighted with the surface versatility his off-spring are showing.
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:58 am

if scat daddy didn't hae those feet issues around the 07 derby IMHO he would have given street sense all he could handle. he was done though when those feet issues popped up but he could run with anyone on his best day.

also it looks like his offspring have no problem going a route of ground either. people remember curling/street sense/hard spun that year but scat daddy was throwing up comparable triple digit Beyers going 9F as well that year.
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Postby Bast » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:43 pm

I'm going to calculate the equivalent time for an actual 1 3/16 times. The American sources know Americans are too damn lazy to figure out metric races.
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Postby Bast » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:01 pm

In an age of cheap calculators, there is no reason to fear meter-based races.

The UAE Derby is run at 1900 m. The American racing press lazily reports this as 1 3/16 miles. It isn't. It is 12.141 yds short of that, but it's easy enough to adjust the time for an actual 1 3/16 mile race.

The Trakus chart provides fractional times between 1800 and 1900 m, which yield 6.32 seconds for Daddy Long Legs to run that last 100 m.

1 m = 1.09361 yd

So, to calculate how much time that additional 12.141 yds would add to the final time:

(6.32 seconds/100 m) X (1 m/1.09361 yd) X 12.141 yds =

0.701 seconds

1:58.34 + 0.70 = 1:59.04 final time

Which doesn't sound stellar for 1 3/16 miles. Does anyone know how times at Meydan tend to go?

Just for giggles, I performed the same calculation for the full Derby distance, certain that the real time would be slower, given fatigue. The result was 2:05.40, again, not stellar.
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Postby bdw0617 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:56 pm

those splits leave a lot to be desired. that wont' cut it here.,
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Postby Bast » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:55 pm

bdw0617 wrote:those splits leave a lot to be desired. that wont' cut it here.,


Really? A time for the last 100 m?
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Postby Patuxet » Wed May 02, 2012 9:04 am

I bumped this up to draw attention to Scat Daddy. I can't off hand recall any other contemporary stallion which had two KY Derby starters in his first crop, although Birdstone recently had two classic winners in his first crop.
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Postby ElPrado » Wed May 02, 2012 5:12 pm

And he's been blessed with the 1 hole. Hopefully they can get him in position.