O'Neill will follow the same pattern...I'll Have Another will be sent to NY ASAP. This guy is a smart trainer...he covers all the bases including having Mario G come to Belmont Park early enough to get a feel for big sandy.
Bodemeister will not run in the Belmont. Baffert will run Paynter instead for Zayat. Here's a list of current probables for The Belmont Stakes:
I’ll Have Another
Union Rags
Optimizer
Paynter
Alpha
Atigun
Dullahan
Five Sixteen
Guyana Star Dweej
Mark Valeski
Rousing Sermon
Stealcase
Street Life
I'll Have Another to NY, Belmont Probables
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Re: I'll Have Another to NY, Belmont Probables
TJ wrote:Here's a list of current probables for The Belmont Stakes:
I’ll Have Another
Union Rags
Optimizer
Paynter
Alpha
Atigun
Dullahan
Five Sixteen
Guyana Star Dweej
Mark Valeski
Rousing Sermon
Stealcase
Street Life
Why O why is Optimizer going to the Belmont?
He was beaten 15 1/2 lengths in the Preakness? Is Lukas expecting a miracle change in his abilities?
May 2013: Plan ahead now for the Phalaris/Teddy Centennial!
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Perseveres with his heart
And wins with his character. --Tesio
Belmont
On Wednesday, May 2nd, Bill from WA posted his thoughts on the Derby prospects. His choice was Went The Day Well but in parenthesis he put, " I think I'll Have Another might just come back to haunt me". Always want to get into your head, Bill, trying to learn....so what was it about IHA that gained your attention and prompted this response...at the very end of the sentence...almost like an afterthought? Thanks, Bill 
Re: I'll Have Another to NY, Belmont Probables
Bast wrote:TJ wrote:Here's a list of current probables for The Belmont Stakes:
I’ll Have Another
Union Rags
Optimizer
Paynter
Alpha
Atigun
Dullahan
Five Sixteen
Guyana Star Dweej
Mark Valeski
Rousing Sermon
Stealcase
Street Life
Why O why is Optimizer going to the Belmont?
He was beaten 15 1/2 lengths in the Preakness? Is Lukas expecting a miracle change in his abilities?
Because, as I suspect you already know, Lucas just likes to have entries in the triple crown races. Just to say he did.
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Mark Valeski`jagger wrote:Who, on the above list, looks the most menacing? Who could spoil the party? For me, perhaps Dullahan, Alpha and Union Rags. No chance Gemologist will show up?
if that peter pan was not a fluke he is going to be very very tough.
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Preakness outcomes have changed the landscape completely...all I could see is a rather brand new list in NY on Jun 9...I dare say for all but one of
the trainers to be there..their role is one of the destructive...all eyes just on one horse.....all with one same prayer.

the trainers to be there..their role is one of the destructive...all eyes just on one horse.....all with one same prayer.

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also, paynter is a very very very very good horse. good enough to be 6 to 1 off one freaking start in the santa anita derby. and ran well.
he's 2 for 3 with the only lost being the SA derby and will love the distance. i think he will be a major player by november defiantly.
he's 2 for 3 with the only lost being the SA derby and will love the distance. i think he will be a major player by november defiantly.
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Re: Belmont
jagger wrote:Who, on the above list, looks the most menacing? Who could spoil the party? For me, perhaps Dullahan, Alpha and Union Rags. No chance Gemologist will show up?
Hi Jagger,
Gemologist and El Padrino are both on the sidelines. TJ
Re: I'll Have Another to NY, Belmont Probables
Bast wrote:TJ wrote:Here's a list of current probables for The Belmont Stakes:
I’ll Have Another
Union Rags
Optimizer
Paynter
Alpha
Atigun
Dullahan
Five Sixteen
Guyana Star Dweej
Mark Valeski
Rousing Sermon
Stealcase
Street Life
Why O why is Optimizer going to the Belmont?
He was beaten 15 1/2 lengths in the Preakness? Is Lukas expecting a miracle change in his abilities?
Hi Bast,
He isn't a definite starter, but all on this list have the Belmont on their radar. This is the first draft:>) TJ
Re: I'll Have Another to NY, Belmont Probables
TJ wrote:Hi Bast,
He isn't a definite starter, but all on this list have the Belmont on their radar. This is the first draft:>) TJ
If Lukas has something with a pulse and registration papers, I'm certain it will run.
May 2013: Plan ahead now for the Phalaris/Teddy Centennial!
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A horse gallops with his lungs
Perseveres with his heart
And wins with his character. --Tesio
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A horse gallops with his lungs
Perseveres with his heart
And wins with his character. --Tesio
Re: I'll Have Another to NY, Belmont Probables
Bast wrote:TJ wrote:Hi Bast,
He isn't a definite starter, but all on this list have the Belmont on their radar. This is the first draft:>) TJ
If Lukas has something with a pulse and registration papers, I'm certain it will run.
Hi Bast....I guess you're right. I just wish Lukas would get this horses back on the grass before he breaks him down, that's where he belongs. TJ
Re: Belmont
...............UNION RAGS and ROUSING SERMON........im pulling for IHA.....but watch out for rags and sermon...im most scared od RAGS.....ive heard him called a closing sprinter and thats just bullshit....rags can run all day.....but good luck to IHA..im pulling for you big horse.jagger wrote:Who, on the above list, looks the most menacing? Who could spoil the party? For me, perhaps Dullahan, Alpha and Union Rags. No chance Gemologist will show up?
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