Shanghai Bobby has a stress fracture and will be out indefinitely. A similar injury to Animal Kindom, who also had a pelvic stress fracture last March. TJ
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Shanghai Bobby Injured
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dublino wrote:Oh what a surprise a phantom injury and retirement to the breeding shed.
Lets not forget he was a champion 2yr old. (Sarcasm)
Hi Dub,
It's not a phantom injury, it's a diagnosed injury, not uncommon in horses. We saw Animal Kingdom diagnosed with and came back off an almost identical injury last March. Shanghai Bobby was suggested the same treatment as Animal Kingdom (90 days rest), so injury's are similarly less severe. The decision is, whether it will be worth it to bring him back that late in the year. Especially since I doubt a start in the BC Classic would be on his agenda? That is what will fuel their decision to race again or retire to stud. I'd retire him given the circumstances. TJ
I don't think I've ever agreed with dublino (and probably will never again), but is this an attempt to save face?
He hasn't developed into a good 3-year-old, just another 2-year-old that matured ahead of his peers, only to have them catch up to him at 3.
And, if the horse couldn't make the Derby, I highly doubt he'd be a good shot in the BC Classic.
He hasn't developed into a good 3-year-old, just another 2-year-old that matured ahead of his peers, only to have them catch up to him at 3.
And, if the horse couldn't make the Derby, I highly doubt he'd be a good shot in the BC Classic.
Cree wrote:I don't think I've ever agreed with dublino (and probably will never again), but is this an attempt to save face?
He hasn't developed into a good 3-year-old, just another 2-year-old that matured ahead of his peers, only to have them catch up to him at 3.
And, if the horse couldn't make the Derby, I highly doubt he'd be a good shot in the BC Classic.
Hi Cree,
If you believe this is a conspiracy theory to save face, you're certainly entitled to that opinion. Yet he was diagnosed with the injury. He has always been thought to have distance limitations due to his breeding, not due to injury, so to me it makes no sense to try to use this as an excuse. Bottom line, Bobby needs a van to go 1 1/4 miles. The King's Bishop at Saratoga would be his cup of tea....and if he can't make that race, there's no reason to bring him back to the races. He is what he is and everyone knew his shortcomings before this injury was made public. TJ
I don't understand the need for a conspiracy theory.
Horses are injured every day. We were looking to claim a nice 5yr old gelding last spring, he was dropping class quick and still hitting the board but not with the same speed he had shown the year before, got him for 12.5, ran him back for 20 and he was last, the jock said he had no spark. Gave him a few weeks off, treated for ulcers and he worked horribly, but never once in 3 weeks did he appear off. Had a vet check him out and found a stress fracture, 8 months off and he won going away at an allowance level and has since paid us back, now we are working on making alittle.
So is it because he was a good 2yr old, because he was on the "derby trail", because of who his trainer is..that causes the conspiracy? If he was a 5yr old claimer, noone would see it.
Horses are injured every day. We were looking to claim a nice 5yr old gelding last spring, he was dropping class quick and still hitting the board but not with the same speed he had shown the year before, got him for 12.5, ran him back for 20 and he was last, the jock said he had no spark. Gave him a few weeks off, treated for ulcers and he worked horribly, but never once in 3 weeks did he appear off. Had a vet check him out and found a stress fracture, 8 months off and he won going away at an allowance level and has since paid us back, now we are working on making alittle.
So is it because he was a good 2yr old, because he was on the "derby trail", because of who his trainer is..that causes the conspiracy? If he was a 5yr old claimer, noone would see it.
I think the conspiracy that people are alleging here is that he was bought into by a major farm who are noted for squeezing every penny out a stallion, expect Shanghai not to come back like Animal Kingdom, expect shuttling to Australia or Argentina also for Shanghai and in 5 years time when the well runs dry after covering 200 mares a season in each hemisphere, expect a one way plane ticket to Korea or China (as they have gotten a foothold their now).
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IcouldbeU wrote:I don't understand the need for a conspiracy theory.
Horses are injured every day. We were looking to claim a nice 5yr old gelding last spring, he was dropping class quick and still hitting the board but not with the same speed he had shown the year before, got him for 12.5, ran him back for 20 and he was last, the jock said he had no spark. Gave him a few weeks off, treated for ulcers and he worked horribly, but never once in 3 weeks did he appear off. Had a vet check him out and found a stress fracture, 8 months off and he won going away at an allowance level and has since paid us back, now we are working on making alittle.
So is it because he was a good 2yr old, because he was on the "derby trail", because of who his trainer is..that causes the conspiracy? If he was a 5yr old claimer, noone would see it.
Hi Icould,
Glad to hear he made it back for you....they usual will if you don't rush them. Eight months is about the proper time frame to bring one back from such an injury plus getting fit to run again. I believe it took Animal Kingdom 8 months also to return after his pelvic stress fracture....and look at what he accomplished after that. Good Luck, TJ
dublino wrote:I think the conspiracy that people are alleging here is that he was bought into by a major farm who are noted for squeezing every penny out a stallion, expect Shanghai not to come back like Animal Kingdom, expect shuttling to Australia or Argentina also for Shanghai and in 5 years time when the well runs dry after covering 200 mares a season in each hemisphere, expect a one way plane ticket to Korea or China (as they have gotten a foothold their now).
Hi Dub,
Unless they are going to try to prove the horse could win going long (which I doubt)....don't expect him to return. He won't be ready to run till the end of the year. He can't be compared to Animal Kingdom....other than the fact they both had pelvic stress fractures. Animal Kingdom was a proven distance runner and a Kentucky Derby winner who would run on concrete if you asked him to. Irwin is always looking to make history....they knew they had a special horse and had the goods to prove it with Animal Kingdom even after suffering two injury's. Shanghai Bobby isn't in that stratosphere...he'll make more money going to the breeding shed. TJ