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Go Freud!

Postby dray33 » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:16 pm

Got his first winner today, Saratoga 4th: My Interpretation

Well done.

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Postby Tairaterces » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:27 pm

Excellent.

Will be very interesting to see how this quintet of full brothers do in about 10yrs from now in the shed . . . . . . . . . .

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Postby Sam » Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:11 pm

Someone refresh my memory please (don't have my stuff in front of me at the moment)

Freud is in NY
Tumblebrutus is in FL
Giant's Causeway is in KY

The 4th brother (whom I am blanking on) is also in KY?

Have there ever been that many full brothers at stud at one time and spread throughout the country (and why isn't one in CA if they were looking for "full coverage"? ;))

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Postby Derby2004 » Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:57 pm

Roar of The Tiger is the fourth

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Postby austique » Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:45 pm

What happened to Wordsworth? Does anybody know? Also, is the youngest one still running Tiger Dance?

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Postby Karie » Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:39 pm

Tumblebrutus is in Ky at Walmac

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Postby monicabee » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:37 am

Dray33 - I posted this under stallions, but did you happen to notice there were FOUR Freud fillies in that race? They finished 1st, 3rd, 6th & 10th.

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Postby dray33 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:06 am

Yes. Odds were stacked for him to have a maiden winner that race. I think you will see many 1-1a type races for NY Breds with Freuds, good value and possibly a great great stallion. I have met the owners of Freud, and they are really nice people, so I am wishing them the best... :D

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Postby monicabee » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:32 am

Dray33, stacking the deck doesn't always work, as Nick Zito learned at the Derby! Does show you though that they are maturing reasonably quickly, too. Freud has only one son going today in the boys equivalent of yesterday's race.

It's early yet. I want to see some of them progress into open company and then I'll allow myself get excited. I have been following him since his stud debut, in part because I like Giant's Causeway, because he is a handsome beast, and in part because, I hate to admit, I liked his name...

Of course, I don't own one of his yearlings :cry: . There's an 05 filly I have my eye on, though....

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Postby dray33 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:42 am

I was lucky enough to get a Freud colt at the FT July sale. We are going to prep him for the 2YO Calder Sale. He's got nice pedigree, May foal and is HUGE... should be interesting to watch. :D

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Postby monicabee » Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:53 am

My friend Alan picked up on My Interpretation's win in his blog, from another perspective.

http://leftatthegate.blogspot.com/

- John Kimmel, who sent out 2 yo My Interpretation to a maiden win on the turf on Wednesday, also took a 2 yo state-bred maiden grass affair today with Immersed in Gold (Seeking the Gold). Today in The Saratogian, he spoke about racing babies on the grass.
'Grass racing is a lot easier on a 2-year-old…. It's less taxing than a deep dirt track like the one we have here now. Horses don't have to deal with dirt being thrown back in their face, and the pace is more moderate. It's a good experience for a young horse.'
According to Dick Powell at Brisnet, My Interpretation's winning time of 1:42.83 was an excellent time for juvenile going two turns here on the turf and one of the five fastest times in the last 10 years. Immersed in Gold is a half brother to Stephen Got Even, and he was making his first lifetime start. It took him 1:46.73 to cover the same distance as his stablemate.

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Postby halo » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:51 pm

It was not the same distance; Immersed In Gold's race was run with the rail set out 9 feet.

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Postby monicabee » Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:28 am

Ah, details... Dick Powell should have noted that, or maybe it got lost in the quotations.

How much of a difference does it make? I tried to figure it out: rail at 9 feet -- that would add about another 28 feet to the race (if memory serves, circumference = pi * r). That's 3.5 lengths (if a length = 8 feet), or a little more than .6 seconds difference (if you use 5 lengths to the second as a comparison).


Too many roundings and approximations, but still a fast time for My Interpretation, I think. The condition of the turf etc may have been a factor also, but since we are looking for things to celebrate about Freud, his first winner showing some class on the grass cannot be denied!

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Postby Tairaterces » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:17 pm

Wait a minute . . There should be no difference in the length of the race no matter where the rail is set. The plus or minus difference is adjusted for at the start of the race.

Here is what I was told about starts of races by my dear departed friend Dale Duspiva who worked at the tracks in NorCal.

This was from an email dated 7/14/2003:

"The times start at the various poles not when the gate opens in thoroughbred racing. Quarter horses start when the gate opens but thoroughbreds get a run up to the start of the actually timing of the races. The distance of the run up varies from distance to distance and from track to track. if you notice the run up for the mile races at GGF and BM is a lot longer then most because the jockeys asked to give them more run to position their horses into the turn and it is not as dangerous."

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Postby halo » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:28 pm

The poles dont move. The gate does. In a 3/4 race, no matter how far behind the 3/4 pole the gate is set, the timer starts when the field hits the 3/4 pole.