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Trainer/breaking/rehab/sales prep

Postby mplata » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:45 pm

I am a licensed trainer in Texas and I am accepting a limited number of horses. I am just getting started and only have a few but others are coming. My stable will be limited to the number of horses in training but will also include other services such as sales prep and rehab. The facility that I am located at is just southwest of Ft. Worth, Tx. and less than an hour to Lone Star Park. We have unlimited access to an equine pool, round pens, walkers, exercise track, gates, etc. Our rates are very affordable and worth every penny. We work hard to get you results. If you are interested or know some one that is please email me at [email protected].

THANKS AND GOOD LUCK IN 2006!!!!

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Postby mplata » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:24 pm

Rates as low as $18/day!!!! Great care for affordable prices!!!

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Postby Pete » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:27 am

Hi MPlata,

Is $18/day is your rate for training?

You say that you're just getting started, but have you had runners before?

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Postby mplata » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:40 am

I am just getting started on my own. I have worked for several trainers and farms in Texas. I have had my own horses since I was 13 and also operated a small boarding facility(family owned)throughout my high school years. I am charging $18/day for rehabilitation horses(swimming, wrapping, stall rest) and $20/day for race training(breaking and etc.). The people I have worked for in the past charge nearly double that and I would normally charge $25/day but since I am going public for the first time in years I am discounting my rates for this year only. I have trained for family and just a few friends with limited success. In the last few years we only started a handful of horses. The reason I haven't went public before is that I did not have the time to commit myself 110%. Horse training is not something you can do 1/2 a$$. I am capable of giving a 110% to my horses now. Email me if you are interested.

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Postby Pete » Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:58 am

Hi MPlata,

I don't have any horses that I'm campaigning in Texas but I was hoping for a response like yours so that you better introduce yourself.

Your rate is one that screams TRY ME!

I want to know about you because 'ya never know'. :D

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Postby Ryeno » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:45 pm

Hi Mplata,

I am going to give you some advice and you can take it or leave it.The rates you have quoted for training race horses is ridiculous.I am a trainer and where i am located it cost me over 30 dollars per day for grain,vitamins,minerals,joint suplements,hay,straw and an exercise rider.That figure doesnt even bring in to the equation of having to hire help or to pay myself.For you to charge 20$ a day you are either short changing your horses or you are short changing yourself.Dont be in such a hurry to train a bunch of horses while you are young.If you do good work and are honest that is what will get you horses as well as success.Most owners who are looking for cheap day rates generally dont pay their bills anyways because they dont have the proper means to be racehorse owners.I wish you luck in your endevour and i hope you dont follow the path of many young trainers who are now broke,out of the business and stacked with huge bills due to being to cheap.

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Postby HR LLC » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:02 pm

Ryeno,
You dont need the $10 exercise rider everyday. Most horses only go out 4 to 5 times a week. Maybe this person does the galloping, hotwalking and has his own farm where he does not have to pay stall rent. Maybe he gets his hay for cheap and maybe he purchases his own lasix and bute. I can see 20 per day. Its hard but not impossible.

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Postby mplata » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:54 pm

I actually charge $25/day but for those that want to give me a try I will give them the fee of $20/day. That is what I quoted. I feed good feeds, do my own minor vet work(extra but only at cost rather than jacked up vet prices), I have a gallop boy on the payroll, I have my own horses also, I do all of my work(I pick the stalls), I make my own liniments and mud/poultice, buy things in bulk to get cheaper prices, and have added it up over and over again. Still I am once an owner/breeder that just got tired of being taken to the cleaners by so many trainers(from the bottom of the barrel to the leading trainers). Sure, I won't make a killing but if I have the confidence in my work enough to drop fees that low shouldn't I be worth a chance to train some horses??? I don't cut the corners and I put good honest hard work, blood, sweat and tears into it.

People always want to know what you did and didn't do. Well, it is hard for me to tell them what I did and didn't do because I always did it under someone elses name.

I understand your concern and I really appreciate it but I have been in this business since I was 13 y.o. When you start out you have to do things drastic or they will never happen. People don't like taking chances if they don't think that they are not getting a good deal. I know I like to save some cash myself if I can.

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Postby mplata » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:58 pm

PS When I quoted people $25/day they just laughed because they said it was to high to try a new trainer??? I don't know where you are at but here in Texas purses are not that great.

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Postby Pete » Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:37 am

Hi all,

Ryeno, good to see you hope that you had a good holiday season.

MPlata, I don't want to speak for Ryeno, I just think he's giving advice. I hear you about the rates being low because of the purse structures, etc. but make sure that you can make money least you can't stay in business.

Best of luck,

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Postby mplata » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:28 am

I know he is being helpful just like others. I appreciate the advice. I have been in this business for a long time and know what it costs to take care of a horse and treat them right. I also know that for $30/day or higher you are making a good living off of horses that are paying day rates. I have just been around to long to fade away now and I have complete faith in my prices to get me where I want to be.


The prices that I have quoted are only good until the end of Feb. 2006. After that they go up to $25/day. For those who get in the barn before that they will have the rate of $20/day until the end of this year.

An example of things being way overpriced. I know that a broodmare out in the pasture doesn't cost me but about $4 a day to feed good grain and alfalfa. But when you haul a mare to a stud farm they charge $18/and up for mare care. Doesn't make much sense to me but I like many others pay it and get the mares bred. I have been to very nice breeding farms and they only charged me $10-14/day on a mare that had a baby on the side. I can promise you one thing she got just as good of care for $10/day as she did for $20/day if not better. Just my little thoughts and opinions.

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Postby Shannon » Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:10 pm

I have found, sometimes but not always, that the new person or farm starting out will give you a better deal, and work harder to please you , because they are trying to build a reputation. Later, when the rep is good, they can start charging more and people will pay for it, just because of the rep.
Mplata, you may get crap to start with, but if you keep your nose clean and keep at it, you will eventually have success. Good luck in your endeavors
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Postby mplata » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:43 pm

Thanks, I have always been a hard worker since I was a kid. I have just gotten to the point where I had enough time to put a good solid effort into it. Plus I am tired of making some of the bigger names just look better and better. It is way past time for me to do this for the public and all on my own. I currently have 5 horses and I am expecting 5 yearlings in about another week for halter breaking and etc. I am limiting my stable to 12 horses in race training, that way I can give better individual care to each and every horse.

Yes, I will have a barn full of crap in the beginning but it won't take long after that to get it really going well. Guess I may start out with a barn full of maidens but at least it is a start.