M and W Hartwell Stable owned Big Old Behr, Ramon Preciado was his trainer.
I would try to track down the number to either one. I know Ramon Preciado is involved with Victory thoroughbreds llc now. The guy Lou Cacchio wasnt very friendly when i called though. I think he thought it was a conspiracy when he asked "what is your reason for trying to find him?

" lol.. i didnt have a great answer for that until
after i got off the phone. I should have said "A friend of mine saw him race in Philly and is interested in buying him.

" Oh well, thats what happens when i get bored at work and i dont study hard enough. But oh.. i think he knows where that horse is. He said he knew the owners but didnt recognize the horses name.

LIES LIES!
Anyway thats a pretty good lead..
