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Flying True, by Is It True, want race records/past info.

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:20 pm
by katie816
I'm trying to find any information on my OTTT, Flying True. He is by Is It True and out of Flying Lassie. I'm trying to find any information on his past races and perhaps what farm he was from. This is the info. I have so far that I suppose would be of any importance:

1996 Flying True,Dkbbr,c,Is It True 3 28 4 3 9
30,116
( 82) 0.48
North America Dirt Sprints 28 4 3 9
30,116
( 82)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 0 1 0
2,540
( 79)
DP = 9-4-1-0-0 DI = 27.00 CD = 1.57 AWD =
5.63
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud
Fee
FTKJUL 1997 155 $21,000 $42,750 ylg ( 6/14)
$3,500


I got a lot of this interpreted my another person... but I'd still like more. Especially with the stuff regarding his potential as a stud... I wasn't able to traslate that. Perhaps someone can help me. Tru is a 1996, dark bay, 16.2hh registered TB. He's definitely been off the track for a couple years now... I'm not sure how long exactly.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:54 pm
by LaTroienne

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:53 pm
by katie816
Thanks... but I had that already... and it's not really giving me any information on his past.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:53 am
by madelyn
What's to know? He raced for 3 years, made 28 starts, earned $30,116 with four wins (16 times on the board) in sprints, with a max speed rating of 82. He must have been running in beer money races. He sold for $21K as a yearling at Fasig Tipton against an average for that sire that year of $42K.

As a stallion prospect for racehorses, it looks pretty grim.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:42 am
by katie816
Anyone know of a way to find what farm he was born at or raced from?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:26 pm
by Roguelet
Here's a start:

Breeder: Jim H. Plemmons

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:31 pm
by katie816
Wow, thanks! Hopefully I'll get somewhere with that information...

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:54 pm
by JimbleBrimble
Hi Katie,

I checked into your horse, and most importantly is that Jim Plemmons is a good judge of horse flesh, so I wouldn't dismiss any stallion he bred from being a useful sire for non-commercial purposes.

It is true that your horse was racing near the bottom of the barrel when he was at Beulah Park but he had a good turn of early speed and was able to win in a romp in a Special Weights maiden race as a three-year-old.

Perhaps you might send a letter to his long-time trainer Jake Radosevich and see what he thinks about the idea.

One wonders why someone would have suggested that he had a "max speed rating of 82" when it is completely erroneous and an obvious misunderstanding of the data before you.

Anyway, Flying True last raced on June 16, 2001 at Thistledown, Ohio.

His wins were as follows:

Dec. 8, 2000 at Beulah Park, Ohio

Oct. 15, 2000 at Beulah Park, Ohio

June 6, 1999 at Mountaineer Park, WV


hope this helps you.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:47 pm
by katie816
Thanks so much... this is so wonderful. Just so you know, he's not going to be a stud... at all. Haha. He's currently being trained to event here in Pennsylvania.

Flying True, by Is It True

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:09 am
by halfpint23
I worked for Jim Plemmons, was his asst farm manager back in the waybacks before he moved with his entire operation to Kentucky. He was a real student of Thoroughbred bloodlines, and had a burning desire to win the Kentucky Derby. He managed to get it done, with Lil' E.T. I'd say he was entirely capable of picking an outstandig horse, whether for breeding or racing purposes.
If your horse came from his breeding program, he was undoubtedly capable, at the very least!

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:44 am
by katie816
Wow... thanks. That's quite impressive. Tru is in a training right now to be an eventer and shows major promise. We just went to a Pony Club dressage show this past weekend and he was just wonderful.

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:21 am
by madelyn
Ummm. Lil E Tee? Won the 131st KY Derby? He was bred by Larry I Littman (who names his horses starting with his initials), trained by Lynn S. Whiting, and owned, at the time he won the Derby, by Cal Partee. Where is Jim Plemmons? I don't recall mention of him at all in the book about Lil E. Tee.

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:26 pm
by katie816
Thanks for all the info. guys! Wonder if I can get more...

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:49 pm
by katie816
bump

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:00 pm
by LaTroienne
This may help.

http://ww2.equineline.com/portcust/darl ... D&CNTY=USA

:lol:
BEULAH PARK Sunday, October 15, 2000

Fast

1:16 (CLM) 3yo+ 6F
Available Purse $5,600

1 hd Flying True (4) Jake Radosevich 4 8-4 I. Gonzalez 2.00
2 hd Miquely (5) Raymond Rieser 3 8-0 E. Donaghey 2.60
3 1 Jessamine Jake (6) Vincent White 3 8-2 M. Heath 11.70
4 6 Lusty American (3) Boyce Gooch 3 8-0 P. Ouzts 7.80
5 2 Prince Cerveza (7) Steven Hudnut 4 8-7 M. Wright 16.40
6 ½ Go Junior (1) Vincent White 3 8-1 G. Stannard 11.70
7 3½ Concord Express (2) Charles Slone 3 8-4 B. Moore 45.00
8 nk Kody's Secret (8) Larry Beavers 3 8-2 J. Calo 4.70
9 Discombobulator (9) Rick Jordan 3 8-3 C. Costanzo 4.80
9 ran TIME 1:12.00
NON RUNNER:
1st OWNER: Phillip G. Creek BRED: Jim H. Plemmons TRAINER: Jake Radosevich
2nd OWNER: Peggy Rieser
3rd OWNER: Wade B. White

TOTE $6.00 $2.80 $2.60 Pool: $13,098

ANALYSIS:
Flying True prevailed long drive
Miquely lacked late response
Jessamine Jake gave way grudgingly
Lusty American late rally
Prince Cerveza evenly, no rally
Go Junior improved position
Concord Express failed to menace
Kody's Secret no threat
Discombobulator dueled, stopped