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Lazy Lode x Miss Arkansas colt...RIP :(

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:04 pm
by ZiaLand
Miss Arkansas (Hawkster) foaled a big, bay colt last night at 11:30 pm. The farm says he's leggy, and has two, or possibly three, white socks.

The sire, Lazy Lode(ARG), is a multiple G1 winner and $1M earner.

This little guy is bred on the same general pattern as Afleet Alex (by a grandson of Mr. P out of a daughter of Hawkster). Let's hope he can run like his "couz". LOL

Unfortunately, I won't have pictures for about a week. :(

Edited March 21, 2006: I'm very sad to report the little guy didn't make it. (See note below). Pretty devastating. This is the first one we've lost.

Laurie

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:59 am
by erins isle
Interesting sire! Congrats with this little one!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:52 am
by henthorn
What a fascinating pedigree match, with multiple strains of Nashua, through Mr. P, Good Manners, and Marshua's Dancer! Lots of class!

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:30 am
by ZiaLand
Thanks Henthorn. I think the returns of Nashua is a real strength in this little guy's pedigree. I bred Miss Arkansas to Lazy Lode(ARG) on the recommendation of a local bloodstock expert (who occasionally posts to the forum). There are really several exciting things going on in his hypo (OK, I guess at this point it's no longer a "hypothetical mating". LOL)

Up close, the colt is sired by a multiple G1 winning millionaire, out of the daughter of a multiple G1 winning, world track record holding millionaire (and the broodmare sire of Afleet Alex). Miss Arkansas is unraced, but she's half-sis to three stakes horses, two of which earned over $100K.

Getting down in the weeds of this guy's pedigree I found the really exciting stuff (to me at least LOL). He's got multiple strains of Tourbillon, through Goya who is the sire of MA's third dam, and Coaraze in Hawksters pedigree. Goya is out of the outstanding broodmare Zariba, and Coaraze is out of Zariba's daughter, Corrida, making Corrida and Goya half-sibs. Then, Lazy Lode adds his two cents to the mix. Through his damline there's an intensely inbred strain of Tourbillon, Tourbillon's sire Ksar, and his dam line through Cardanil (check out his pedigree -- it's mind boggling!). Lazy Lode also brings an additional strain in through his sireline through the mare Chimere Fabuleuse, a daughter of Coaraze. All these reinforcements actually make Tourbillon a much stronger factor in the pedigree than the percentages indicate (IMHO), and coupled with the Man O War and Nashua blood (two sires that Tourbillon worked very well with), and multiple returns to Bull Dog, et al., it seems to be a pretty potent genetic recipe.

I guess time will tell. :)

Meanwhile....I'm listening for Lazy Lode's first crop to start making some noise this year.

Laurie

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:37 am
by ZiaLand
Very bad news. We lost our colt this morning.

The farm called yesterday to say his temperature was dropping, and he had suddenly stopped nursing, had developed diarrhea and was acting listless (after jumping around and being very active the day before). They took him to the vet, and the vet thought he was suffering from dehydration. The vet hydrated him and tubed him to get food and liquid into this stomach. He was starting to improve, but apparently he collapsed, had convulsions and died this morning.

We think there may have been something wrong internally that took a few days to manifest (he was just over 5 days old). Possibly his liver or kidneys failed. There's not much sense in doing an autopsy. I don't think there's anything the farm could have done differently, it's just one of those things.

I guess all the trials and tribulations so many members of the forum have experienced over the last two years with their foals and mares helped prepare me for this. But it's tough...very tough...

RIP little guy. :cry:

Laurie

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:43 am
by Roguelet
Zialand, I'm so sorry. It's hard to lose any horse, but to lose the little ones that haven't even lived yet, with so much hope ahead of them... that's just devastating.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:33 am
by madelyn
So sorry to hear about your colt... as Roguelet said, it's HARD to lose any of them. But regarding necropsy, you might want to consider this: If the death is mysterious, necropsy could help spot a previously unknown condition or disease. But then I'm only an hour away from University of Kentucky and the Livestock Disease Control Center that performs necropsy for $25 or so....it's for the good of the breed.

The ONLY time I have not had a necropsy done was when the cause of death was obvious.

It's certainly NOT to point a finger at the farm, if anything to point it AWAY.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:09 pm
by ZiaLand
Hi. Thanks for your thoughts. I know this is a risky business at best, and most of you have similar stories to tell. We were just hoping to beat the odds on our first crop.

We're looking at the possibility of the necropsy, but don't know if it's going to be doable just yet. The medical resources in rural New Mexico do not compare to those in the East, unfortunately. Time and distrance are really working against us right now.

Laurie

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:47 pm
by henthorn
So sorry to hear about your baby, Laurie. :(

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:03 pm
by Riskaverse
Oh Laurie, I have tears in my eyes reading this :cry:
It's so neat to keep up with everyone's babies on here and I know that you were so proud and happy with your special little guy...
All I can say is that I'm so sorry.
Try to think of the babies that the future will bring... and here's hoping that the heartache you're feeling now will eventually be replaced with ten times the joy.
RIP pretty boy...

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:38 pm
by BenB
So damn sorry for you, it can,t read this, without tears coming along.

Ben

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:21 pm
by Sysonby
I'm so sorry Zialand. I lost one last year and I know the pain. It's the unfulfilled promise that hurts the most.

If it helps at all, I'm taking a lot of solace in my little one's half sister. Her birth helped a lot.

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:50 am
by erins isle
Not for only Zialand, but every time I read a message about a foal that has lived for such a short time, tears are in my eyes for all those innocent little ones. May they all RIP. These things happen and death belongs to life. Everything which is born will die that is the one and only thing for sure, but as it happens to very young individuals it is very hard to accept.
Dear Zialand I wish you strength and I also hope your mare will come over this soon. My thoughts are with you both.