Complete Dispersal

[Jenny]

I rescued mares from Gerry's a few years back. I found an ad on the internet and went down to look at some race prospects. What a Fu@#$ing disaster the place was, every horse was starving. I bought 2 just to get them the HELL out of there. They were emaciated and covered in lice!!! I got them sorted out. One is the mare One Eyed Queens who was posted on here a few months ago in foal to my stallion Gone Fishin. She had the nerve to email me to buy her back!!!! Like as if!!!! I don't think she realized I was the same person who bought them from her in the first place. When I started coming to this site I realized who she was. People were sending her horses in need of help. I couldn't believe it!! I did pm people about her. But I did not want to post anything and start a war on this site. People would then be sticking up for her and back and forth. Not knowing the real circumstances. They ( her and her mother) should never be allowed to own horses again!!!!!

[Jenny]

The killer is she had borders there paying money for that sh@#t.

[hotrod horses]

I bought a mare from her 2 years ago, and had her shipped to me, the mare had ringworm and was way underweight . I called to ask about the ringworm and was told "she didn't have it when she left NY", health papers stating she was in good condition, the vet must have decided any where was better than here and let her go.

[soundfast]

If you stated the facts and named names and reported it to the authorities it might have saved the lives of horses and kept a lot of people from grief. I publicly named the vet who killed my mare 2 years ago in the hopes of saving other peoples horses lives and other people from suffering. I stated the facts over and over to many people. The authorities did nothing to him. They did not think it was a crime to be totally incompetent and kill someones else horse on purpose. I bad mouthed him publicly. His name is Randall "Randy" Scarrow and he came to the US from Canada. He moved his practice in VA at least 3 times that I know of. He claims to specialize in equine reproduction but his idea of a fetotomy was to cut off the front half of the foal,shove the rear half back inside the mare and then he reached his arm inside her and killed her. He made a smart ass remark about a sofa not fitting thru a doorway after he killed her and said she was not a good mare. I cried and cried and it took months for me to get over it. She was a good mare and I loved her. If he was on this board and I knew it I would tell everybody what he did and who he is. You should have told everybody publicly what you saw and let them decide whether to go and look for themself. Des's mare died,Stealingkats mare died and other mares died also. BridledObsession is looking for her mare Wewe C that she leased to Gerry. Lynn Brennan did a story on it. I find it amazing that she allegedly got a horse from a horse rescue just this year named Ugotta. Another Chance 4 horses supposedly adopted or sold him to her and they were involved in the rescue. They should have looked at her farm and horses then.

[Jenny]

Her place was not in the middle of nowhere. People drove by it day in and day out. People were sending their horses there. people where shipping there. It is not like people did not know. Someone else stated about a woman in Florida who cried out for hep and the rescues would not do anything until the situation was dire. When I was a Gerry's the horses were bad or what I would call bad. Nothing like the pics that I have seen.
The story said ongoing investigation. How long had they been investigating her place? Did they wait till the horses were in dire shape to take it over? I was the original person to tell Stealing kat about her as soon as she told me about having any involvement with her. I told her straight get your horses out of there. She managed to get her yearling back about a month ago. I don't know why the mare was still there.

We just had a similar thing happen here in our area. a farm near Fort Erie Race track had 15 tb removed. It was local trainers who owned them. Some of these people had been winning races left right and centre, and you couldn't feed your horse!!! Bullsh#%t!!!

All the horses have found good homes. thank God. I hope these so called "trainers" get their licenses revoked perminately

[CampRiver]

I am completely aghast over this. I had been in contact with Gerry a few months back over possible purchasing one of her mares. She seemed a very sincere person. We emailed back and forth a few times and then all of a sudden I never heard from her again. I assumed she had a change of heart over selling her mare. I can only imagined what I might of ended up with but then again might've saved a mare from a much worse ending....

[Marli]

I find it amazing that she allegedly got a horse from a horse rescue just this year named Ugotta. Another Chance 4 horses supposedly adopted or sold him to her and they were involved in the rescue. They should have looked at her farm and horses then.

To clarify
Posting for AC4H:
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Soundfast - sorry you have your information incorrect. I am sure you wouldn't want to spread false and untrue information.

Ugotta was transitioned from trainer who stated "he hadn't sent a horse to slaughter in 30 years and didn't want to start now"... to Gerry. At the time AC4H didn't have room to bring in a stallion - which we have done often times - gelded them and placed them in approved, protected homes.

Ugotta didn't "go through AC4H" he was never "in our organization". AC4H did however during the transition had Gerry sign a $0 fee Thoroughbred Transitional Agreement in which AC4H would have first right of refusal.

Christy Sheidy, Co-founder
Another Chance 4 Horses, Inc.
www.ac4h.com or call 610-621-5290
donation options: http://www.ac4h.com/dpoptions.htm
Shop to donate - help horses: http://www.ac4h.com/Fundraising.htm

[soundfast]

I read that on another thread in stallions. It was in a post about Jelly Roll Romp. It was written by walaa who said she went to their web site. Gerry may have said that he came from there.

[walaa]

I'm walaa, and I went to your website, Ac4H, I have actually inquired about donating to one of your horses in the past, and I did see Ugotta on your website, and at that time you did have a price on him. Fact, period. I do love your org,. I have never said anything bad about it, but the fact is he was on your website, maybe I read it wrong, but he was on there, advertised as a Seattle Slew son, and then he was gone, and I then, not days later, saw on the Norcrest site where they had a "new" stallion and it was Ugotta. There was nothing about how you didnt have room for a stallion etc. and again I love what you do, but dont badmouth me because I posted that they got him from you, I wasnt saying anything bad about you, it has already been stated in previous posts that one of there stallions came from a rescue and there is nothing wrong with that, esp a Seattle Slew son. But dont start trying to say, "he said , she said," about a horse there, and making me look guilty for saying something, because no matter where he came from or how he ended up there, it had not one thing to do with me, and I didnt have anything to do with starving these horses, so leave me out of how 1 starving horse ended up there, because I said where he came from, that doesnt have anything to do with what happened to these animals. You advertised him on your website, then he was at Norcrest. There was a post how they stood way too many stallions and got one from a rescue, I said they got him from you, if that is somehow incorrect, Im sorry, but dont dare try to misplace this awful glare from Norcrest Farm to me because I said where he came from. It is not your fault nor mine what has happened to these wonderful animals, but lets keep the blame for any of it where it rightfully belongs, no matter where the animals came from, or whether the mares or stallions had any business producing at all.

[Crystal]

Didn't she get a couple new stallions this year.. Mattress or whatever... Can someone inform his old owner of what happen. Maybe they can take him back?

[Jenny]

The SPCA is going to have a really hard time with all of this. Trying to figure out who owns who? Can you imagine? What about Identifying your own horse. Probably not recognizable. Some owners don't really even know what their horse looks like, all they know is, it's bay etc. What about all the home breds of Gerrys they are going to have to find homes for all of these!!! I am sick over this. How could she let this happen? her horses were thin before, it was the middle of winter. some people don't feed as much hay and grain with no pasture in the winter. so their horses go down hill. then in the summer look great because they have huge fields of grass. I've seen it time and time again, just driving down the roads in our area. I had no idea she would let it get to this! She let horses starve to death!!! My emotions go from being so upset about the suffering of the horses to complete outrage and I wan't to go down there and beat the living sh@#t out of her and her mother. What about the vet doing the health check papers wouldn't they have noticed a decline from the usual state of the place.
I have quite a few blankets I would like to donate. Does anyone know how I can get then down there? I don't want to have to ship them via UPS over the boarder cost you a fortune. But I could drive down to somewhere close if someone want to meet me, or give me the address to one of the farms who has need of some winter blankets.

[AC4H]

No Problem Walaa - just wanted to make sure it was clarified. We have horses on our website all the time that are not at our rescue or in our program - However they can benefit from the massive amounts of traffic that our website has. It clearly states that on our website as well. We try to help them all... not just the ones in our care.

If your unsure, don't know or before you make a post that may be incorrect- please seek clarification from the source - that way there is no damage done to anyone involved nor can anyone assume someone is just out for drama or troublemaking- the horses always win that way.

So yes, his picture was on the AC4H website as the TB Division of AC4H provides a service (similar to the CANTER organization/voluntary/at no charge) to provide exposure to horses at risk/in need of homes from their owners. Interested parties contact the owners directly. He was one of the first TB's listed in such a manner prior to getting a dedicated page for TB listings. AC4H did opt (on behalf of the owner) to maintain a right of first refusal to protect the horse and that agreement was signed. It's used as an option for any such listings for the horses protection. They are however- at no time the property of AC4H or on the property of AC4H but the agreement is an option for protection if desired and opted for by the parties involved. Hopefully this clarification eliminates further confusion.

http://www.ac4h.com/transitioningthoroughbreds.htm

Any further questions please contact me directly. Thank you.

[walaa]

cool beans Glad we could get that out of the way, I did respond on another thread, to your post, was basically the same. I do love your org, aand I'm sorry there was confusion over this. Again it doenst matter where they all came from, it certainly is nothing bad I was saying about you It has been a long time since I saw the pics, so maybe I did not remember that you had him listed for another entity. Sorry, I wish you werent so far away, I would help you with caring for the horses you got from there.

[walaa]

I also deleted my other post on the stallion page so there wont be repercussions from it, from anything I could have said that you might have taken badly, or make people think you had any wrongdoing by helping Ugotta. It will be one less post for people to get upset about.

[TrueColours]

Years ago there was this asshole who went to the local Kitchener auction and bought these poor horses for meat prices and then sold them out of his barn, usually with the statement or insinuation that if the person coming to see them DIDNT buy them, they would be in cans within the next week or so. He sold a WHACK of horses because people were horrified at the conditions they were in and didnt want to leave them there

The water troughs were filled with water, but also with rotting leaves, algae, dead and decomposing bugs and critters, feces, branches, dirt, etc. But - he WAS providing water to them and there are no laws stating what KIND of water you need to provide to your animals in your care

They also had hay - LOTS of hay. You know when you drive by and see those round bales that have been sitting in a fields for 3 or 4 years and are black? THAT was the hay they were fed and the farmers generally PAID HIM to come and get it out of their fields so not only did he get "free hay" for his horses, he actually MADE money on the deal!

Again - the SPCA stated that as he was providing food for them and plenty of it so there were no laws as to the QUALITY of hay he needed to provide.

It got so bad that so many complaints were filed against him that each time a complaint was logged and an inspector came by, he then launched a countersuit against the SPCA for harassment. It then got to the stage where the SPCA no longer investigated any claims against him as their legal bills were mounting each time they did

The horses were standing knee deep in filth and muck and slime - a combination of urine, manure and mud but again - no laws stating what sort of footing they need to be housed in. Including just born foals and those that were a few weeks/months old

It was awful - he was killing those horses as well and there wasnt a damned thing anyone could do - legally - to stop it. Except buy his horses at inflated prices to get them the Hell out of there ...