A. P. INDY stallion prospect--3/4 brother to BERNARDINI

Barcaldine · Postby **Barcaldine** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:21 pm

A gorgeous, 16.1 hand three-year-old, winner of maiden special weight, went through Saratoga ring for $1.45 million. Half-brother to THISKYNOLIMIT, graded stakes winner of over $700,000.

Details by request, serious inquiries only please, by PM or to [email protected]

griff · Postby **griff** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:34 pm

You have posted a total of six times on this board; four of them were intentionally insulting and two of them was to advertise the availability of a stallion, presumably for breeding purposes, that won just over $30k and ran his last race as a $7,500 claimer..

Not exactly a positive approach and certainly not the way to win friends and influence people.

griff

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:55 pm

This brings to mind an occasion, six years ago, where my neighbor's wife was given an off-the-track gelding named Miner's Prize. The horse was really very well bred, by Miner's Mark out of a Seattle Slew mare and had won over $450K. My neighbor tends to the know-it-all, supercilious type, and was firmly convinced the horse had to be worth $500,000, and they were going to sell him for that.

While the horse certainly had the pedigree and the earnings, he was a GELDING. After a year and a half of feeding him, and advertising him for sale, the neighbor gave the horse away in disgust. In the case of the horse in this post, he has the pedigree and the equipment, but not the earnings/race record. The OP resorted to some name-calling in one of the other threads he started on this topic, indicating something of the know-it-all, supercilious nature of my neighbor. The market value of the horse in this post is probably somewhere south of his last claiming price. It will only be advanced by someone taking the time and big, big money to throw a lot of very good mares at this horse and then getting those offspring to win impressive races.

griff · Postby **griff** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:19 pm

well said

griff

TrueColours · Postby **TrueColours** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:14 am

Reminds me of THIS guy I bought many many years ago, for something like $800.00

http://www.pedigreequery.com/fiesty+bear

Take a look at the dam line and who SHE produced

I was certain that I had made the steal of the century and I was going to be able to buy new cars, new toys, a new home - the WORKS - with his winnings, if I just gave him one more chance on the track and got the right trainer for him

Uh huh ... :roll:

He was the sweetest horse imagineable and he wanted NO part of being a race horse no matter WHO his Momma was and I ended up selling him for something like $1500.00 to a young girl who loved him to bits and won all sorts of hunter championships on him

I sure did have huge dreams with him - THATS for sure!!! :lol:

griff · Postby **griff** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:49 am

True Colors

Find out what color he is; after all he is "gorgeous" even if he can't run.

griff

Jessi P · Postby **Jessi P** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:36 am

JUST A REMINDER - this is a classified ad section, not a chat forum. Please re-read the stickied Forum Guidelines if you need to review the purpose of this forum.

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:55 pm

Jessie: I respect your take on this particular aspect of the buying/selling board, but sometimes a little chatter can confirm the seriousness and reliability of the post. I've been around horses all my adult life and both you and I know a few honestly chosen words by knowledgeable professionals about a particular seller or horse goes a long way to saving a buyer's bank account. A few examples here and there in response can't do anymore damage than a few selectively hidden facts by the anxious seller or agent who places the posts.

Griff was raised on dairy farm so you've got to get up pretty early in the morning to get anything over on him. I raised hogs on the side. The whole day was hell for me.

When you think about it, that's why Angie's List (trade and professional referrals and critics) is doing so well on the www.

Jessi P · Postby **Jessi P** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:26 am

I agree Shammy - however this particular forum was discussed ad nauseum by the mods and after careful consideration our solution was to make it a classifieds ads type section. We dont want our posters to be afraid of or leary of posting here for fear of being torn apart. The General Discussion forum is the place to have discussions about people's integrity and business practices.

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:52 am

Rules are rules and I'll abide by them.

Jessi P · Postby **Jessi P** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:01 pm

Thanks Shammy!

IcouldbeU · Postby **IcouldbeU** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:30 am

He has the breeding, comes from a stallion family and could make a nice regional stallion for the right price.

I think Madelyn's analogy is way off because he does have the "equipment".

Too bad I am not in the market for a stallion, I think he is worth a shot. There are plenty of goodsiring stallions who for whatever reason did not light up the track.

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:55 am

madelyn wrote:This brings to mind an occasion, six years ago, where my neighbor's wife was given an off-the-track gelding named Miner's Prize. The horse was really very well bred, by Miner's Mark out of a Seattle Slew mare and had won over $450K. My neighbor tends to the know-it-all, supercilious type, and was firmly convinced the horse had to be worth $500,000, and they were going to sell him for that.

While the horse certainly had the pedigree and the earnings, he was a GELDING. After a year and a half of feeding him, and advertising him for sale, the neighbor gave the horse away in disgust. In the case of the horse in this post, he has the pedigree and the equipment, but not the earnings/race record. The OP resorted to some name-calling in one of the other threads he started on this topic, indicating something of the know-it-all, supercilious nature of my neighbor. The market value of the horse in this post is probably somewhere south of his last claiming price. It will only be advanced by someone taking the time and big, big money to throw a lot of very good mares at this horse and then getting those offspring to win impressive races.

I said that this horse has the equipment. You missed the point of the analogy.

Regardless, the discussion on this thread centers around the market price of this horse. While I don't know what the price is, I believe it is significantly higher than that of a "regional stallion", taken from the inference of the original poster in the other threads, in different topic forums, regarding this horse.

In any case, as Jessi reminds us, this thread is a classified ad thread. I think there are other places to discuss this.

IcouldbeU · Postby **IcouldbeU** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:36 pm

I think he is worth while as a stallion prospect and that was the point of my previous posts. I am sorry that that point was overlooked by some readers

springboro · Postby **springboro** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:34 pm

He's worth whatever any fool pays for him