Pedigree Query

Does anything in this pedigree scream, "I could throw color!" to you? I'm not seeing it, but I looked at several of his yearlings at Timonium today & one of the things most had in common - they were roan. White hairs through their coats.

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Just curious what anyone else notices in the pedigrees. Had it been just 1 or 2 yearlings, I'd have attributed it to the unknown-to-me dams. But it was consistent in the ones I saw.

Not necessarily his pedigree, but he himself does to me. I see many characteristics of patterns.

ACC

Yes, look at his tail, for one.

I'm a newbie at this color thing....

BUt......I would like to see the other side of his face...Follow his blaze....you can see a huge white chunk at his nostril...maybe there is white on the bottom lip over there I like the look of his tail...

HH

Is it just me or is there something odd about his withers? Maybe poor photoshop skills? Or maybe it is just my lousy laptop screen!

It's several unfortunate things working against each other.

1: He has wither countershading causing that area to be darker and increasing an illusion.

2: He has a muscle line running from his back and turning down his girth that is particularly prominent in this lighting situation and is causing further illusion.

3: His mane is laying straight back over his withers as opposed to down the side of his withers on the other side. It's making them look funny on top.

4: The color of his back and where the reflections fall are making him look either super high withered or dip backed when he is neither.

Here's another photo that, despite the ridiculously distracting watermark, avoids some of the problems I mention and shows his topline much better than it looked in the other photo IMO:
http://horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=34843

ACC

glenhill farm wrote:Is it just me or is there something odd about his withers? Maybe poor photoshop skills? Or maybe it is just my lousy laptop screen!

yeah I did a serious double take on that the first time i saw this pic. Gets explained below.

Thanks ACC - the second photo is much better.

It's amazing to me that in the photo it looks like he has HUGE withers and a bad back and in the second photo he actually has very little wither at all and a strong back. Little things like this photography really do make a huge difference.

ACC

DO we have any pics of his foals???? I did a Progeny Report on him and RAN OUT OF GAS looking to see if any had pics..FOUND ONE...plain bay


HH

I think the Broad Brush sons all seem to have that characteristic stance with the high head that makes the withers look prominent & hollows the back - its interesting that you can see that "look" or stance in several of his sons. But when you look at a picture like accphotography posted, all that wither/back thing goes away . . .

I don't have any pictures of his offspring. I was just surprised to see that everyone except one at the sale had serious roaning throughout their coats.

And most had VERY good bone. I was especially fond of a chestnut filly who went for just $1,000. The only place I'd fault her was height - she had lots of bone, good body - but kinda short legs.

Fortunately, I wasn't actually AT the sale when she went through the ring. Apparently, self-control isn't my strong suit. We have a lovely 16.2-hand Marquetry mare who is in our barn because she was at an auction where I just KNEW she'd be out of our price range, so I didn't really look at her much before she went in the ring. It was one of those auctions without a whole lot of buyers.

As my husband tells the story, he was watching her in the ring when he heard someone say, "Are you going to let her go that cheaply? BID!!!!"

Apparently, the speaker was me.

IMO he has a good amount of "color" producing family members

reedhill wrote:IMO he has a good amount of "color" producing family members

Ah. Thanks. Back to my original question - who do you see in his family who produce color?

About 28 horses within the first 10 generations, and more back further.