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Help please possible purchase

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:49 am
by angrovestud
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I would like your thoughts thats if you dont mind please on this 2 year old filly by Avonbridge out of a mare by Dr Fong on her colour and her comfomation she is for sale in the UK and I think she is Rabicano what do you more knowledgable folkes think help me make a decision please

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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:18 pm
by TrueColours
Honestly? You want my honest opinion un-sugar coated?

She is well and truly awful ...

Horrible neck and shoulder, unfeminine head from what one can tell, long in the pasterns, decent back length, decent hind end. She has that dip in front of her withers and her neck is bordering on a ewe neck and her head is just stuck on the end of the neck - there is no "flow" to any parts of her coming together ...

Truly - even for free I wouldnt be interested in her for any breeding purposes whatsoever. If someone wanted her for a games or gymkhana mount - go to it - but if your plans are ever to breed her, I'd say please dont do it ...

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:25 pm
by accphotography
She looks like an app. (not a good thing in any way IMO LOL).

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:55 am
by angrovestud
she can not be an Appy as she is a 2 year old and a Pure TB I really would like to know if she a rabicano

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:51 am
by TrueColours
But why even CARE if she is rabicano or not??? :?

She is a horrible example - conformation wise - in almost every possible way, so what does it matter what colour she is or what colour genetics she possesses when all she has going for her is a functioning uterus and ovaries and thats probably about it??? :?

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:58 am
by angrovestud
because I like Genetics as I am interested in them and I like to learn why are you so bothered?

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:16 am
by TrueColours
Why????? :?

Because you asked us "knowledgeable folks" to comment on her conformation so you could make a decision. Which I did. Which I stated was awful in every possible way.

Now - if you had asked "What colour is this mare and no - I am NOT thinking of buying her, I am just curious what you all think her colour is" - whole 'nuther ballgame. We wouldnt even have touched on the conformation part and concentrated on purely the colour alone

So - buy her. Put her into your breeding program. Makes no difference to me :roll: . You asked some questions and you got some answers. Sorry if you dont like them ... :roll:

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:22 am
by color
Well the headline does say "possible purchase" so it indicates you may want to buy her. I would say she is Rabicano

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:32 am
by angrovestud
I didnt say it was for me Thank you for your comments on her comfomation I will ask someone who knows in the UK thanks, just thought as it was late in the Uk I would ask here first but it does not matter now

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 9:55 am
by RiddleMeThis
angrovestud wrote:she can not be an Appy as she is a 2 year old and a Pure TB I really would like to know if she a rabicano


ACC doesn't mean in pattern. She means the mare looks to be conformed like a lot of apps she has seen, and that means quite badly.

I also agree with her and TCF the mares ugly.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:02 am
by madelyn
I don't like her short ewe neck, nor her straight-ish shoulder or her front pasterns.. that said it could be a very bad photo.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:28 am
by spacely
She is awful. Color or no, she should not head into the breeding shed. I agree with ACC - she looks like an App & that is not a good thing.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:37 pm
by accphotography
Quite frankly she looks like an app to me color wise too (which is ALSO a bad thing for my personal tastes). That does not look like a normal form of rabicano to me, but it seems there is no other explanation.

But yes, RMT is right, I mostly meant conformationally, and that's a very bad thing.

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:21 pm
by freshman
TrueColours wrote:Why????? :?

Because you asked us "knowledgeable folks" to comment on her conformation so you could make a decision. Which I did. Which I stated was awful in every possible way.

Now - if you had asked "What colour is this mare and no - I am NOT thinking of buying her, I am just curious what you all think her colour is" - whole 'nuther ballgame. We wouldnt even have touched on the conformation part and concentrated on purely the colour alone

So - buy her. Put her into your breeding program. Makes no difference to me :roll: . You asked some questions and you got some answers. Sorry if you dont like them ... :roll:


Easy there, tiger.

I think that the OP is trying to learn about conformation, color, etc, and isn't not trying to defend some sinister plot to breed a horse for color, quality be damned.

Unless the whole thing is totally over my head, I say be nice. She is asking a question. Apparently, she must think that the posters on this forum are knowledgeable folk on the subject.

It's a compliment. Take it.

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:42 pm
by color
I would never judge too fast on a photo alone. I can stand you up one of my best mares so that she looks like pure crap, but if presented nice and correct she looks as what she is, a premium awarded main book mare.

So I always would ask for more pictures and the horse stood up correctly and then you can judge.