From Pseudo-Thoroughbred to Thoroughbreds

[Jorge]

Post the pedigree of every European "pseudo-Thoroughbred" runner from this century you know who may soon qualify to insert his/her pedigree among Thoroughbreds according to the English Rule already cited in the appaloosa validation thread.

Please don't forget to post the pedigrees.

This topic seems quite interesting!!

[angrovestud]

http://www.pedigreequery.com/clantime

He you go Jorge his dam was not in the GSB

[Jorge]

Angrovestud,

Thank you so much for the valuable data. Can you pinpoint the name of the ancestor responsible for the asterisk. By asterisk I mean the non-Thoroughbred cornerstone whose name was "inserted".
Great! Thanks again for your valuable participation.

[belambi]

Interesting thread.

Australia is one of the few countries that (untill last year) has stuck to its guns and not had this rule.. hence the reason why creams and frame overoes where not allowed. However, they have now been legally forced to fall inline with the other studbook of the world (there is some sort of Stud book treaty ) and Australians have flocked to buy overo positive and cream tbs.(8 so far!)

[angrovestud]

Wonder if the USA will follow as they to could then be allowed to breed colour in interesting.
Jorge I think this is the horse your after
This mares sire does not go back to the foundation mares in the GSB.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/no+more2

Guess what its like waiting for buses get one then along comes another here as another one she is the 7th cross to a GSB stallion.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/red+crystal2
this is the pedigree of a mare thats here at stud I only looked in to it as she is in the Non TB register by a GSB stallion

http://www.pedigreequery.com/callendon

[Truly]

Interesting thread.

Australia is one of the few countries that (untill last year) has stuck to its guns and not had this rule.. hence the reason why creams and frame overoes where not allowed. However, they have now been legally forced to fall inline with the other studbook of the world (there is some sort of Stud book treaty ) and Australians have flocked to buy overo positive and cream tbs.(8 so far!)

It's called 'The International Stud Book Commititee' Belambi.

Each country has their own Jockey club and stud book for Thoroughbreds and racing but they fall into continents also.

If I remember correctly it's North America, Asia, Europe etc.

The ISBC is made up of representatives from Worldwide TB stud books but Weatherbys is the base.

So each country follows the ISBC guidelines but they don't neccessarily have to include them.

Weatherby's (English and Irish stud book) who are the foundation stud book for all Thoroughbreds put forward to the ISBC meeting in 2008 that they allow Cremello as a colour (they used my Electrum as proof as I had imported him from the US and his passport said palomino)
They approved it and Electrum was the first to be correctly registered as cremello.

Previously Germany had asked the ISBC for approval of palomino when Gwen imported a palomino from the US. (could have been Weatherbys when the palomino The Gold Fox was imported here but not sure?)

However each country can have the choice to whether they choice to allow these colours or not in their own stud book...as Europe is classed as one, Germany can automatically register cremello because England had already got it approved by the ISBC.

I believe the US and Canada are still refusing to register cremello even though the ISBC said they can.
I thought Australia was still refusing to allow dilutes?

The 8 generation is also approved to all but not every country choses to include it.

This is to the best of my knowledge and I stand corrected if wrong

[Jorge]

THE FOLLOWING 3 INTERESTING THREADS ARE CLOSELY RELATED SO I AM POSTING
THEIR LINKS FOR FUTURE CROSS-REFERENCES.

A LEGITIMATE WAY OF INTRODUCING APPALOOSA MARKINGS? [posted by “BAST”]
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... hp?t=28476

WEATHERBY’S NTR EXPLAINED [posted by Truly]
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... hp?t=28511

FROM PSEUDO-THOROUGHBREDS TO THOROUGHBREDS [posted by Jorge]
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... hp?t=28501

[Bast]

The rules will change in a flash when TBs of rare color win graded stakes.

[belambi]

No.. they are now approving them, but listing palomino and cremello as chestnut..

[Jorge]

Interesting thread posted at the General Discussion section related to a topic we recently discussed here (The Color Section)

KEENELAND SEPTEMBER HIP 1773 INFO
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... hp?t=28848

Any comments?