Saw this on eBay today
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Life Mag from 1963 Mont Blanc White TB foaled
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I got it today....it doesn't say much....and is on the short side...but still COOL....seems that He was a FLUKE....y'all would know more than me about that....but dad was brown and mom was a dark color...(black and white pics)..is does say that he has brother and sisters that are more like the dam in color...it doesn't mention 1/2 brothers and sisters...so I'm thinking full....but who knows..
I have a party to deal with on Saturday...then all the time in the world...so I'll do copies sometime next week...Angro..I can send them to you...it doesn't bother me...I'd rather do that then figure out how to post it on FB...
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I have a party to deal with on Saturday...then all the time in the world...so I'll do copies sometime next week...Angro..I can send them to you...it doesn't bother me...I'd rather do that then figure out how to post it on FB...
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Meant to post this ages ago.. about the Aussie whites..
THE MATRIARCH: The white Glacial in full livery before a race at Kilmore in the 1960s. Glacial has started an unbroken line of fi ve generations of white thoroughbreds.
The third dam of his sire, Sir Tristram, is Selene’s daughter, All Moonshine. The Camina Burana filly is not the first time Zabeel has influenced the production of a white horse. His son, I Conquer, is the sire of New Zealand’s most recent racing novelty, the white filly Legally White (Wh f 2002, I Conquer-Matilda, by Hermod), who has a record of one win from nine starts on the south island. The other widely regarded source is England’s star sprinter of 100 years ago, the “spotted wonder” The Tetrarch (Gr h 1911, Roi Herode-Vahren, by Bona Vista), a registered grey but some people, including noted Victorian horseman, and lover and breeder of white thoroughbreds, Brendan Page, believe The Tetrarch’s true colour was white, or overo sabino, meaning an off-shoot of the pure white gene that is a mixture of white with colour. Page, who claims to have 21 white thoroughbreds on his
two Seymour properties, not all registered to race, but all descendants of a mare that raced in Victoria in the late 1960s, the white Glacial (Wh m 1966, Grey Marwin-Milady Fair, by Jambo). Page can probably boast the only “herd” of white thoroughbreds in the world that directly represents five unbroken generations of white, racing thoroughbreds. His white horses come via his late stallion Colourful Gambler (Wh h 1986, Khaleben from Lots Of Speed, by Live Arrow), a white son of Glacial’s son, Khaleben. The white Khaleben (1972, by Khalif) proved himself a good racehorse, winning at Flemington before being retired to limited opportunities at stud. When the Zabeel-Carmina Burana filly sold in March, it was widely reported that the last white thoroughbred to race in Australia was the Gai Waterhouse-trained filly The Bride (Wh m 1991, Star Shower-Salomeneo, by Idomeneo), who retired a maiden after 11 starts.
suffer jibes from his fellow trainers about his “circus” horse.
‘ Page had to
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That statement couldn’t have been further from the truth. Only last November, Page raced his colt, the aptly named High Rail Curious (Wh c 2004, Highrail Danehill-Like A Gambler, by Colourful Gambler), at Benalla, in a 1206m maiden in January 2008. The powder white colt failed to beat a runner home, and Page had to suffer jibes from his fellow trainers about his “circus” horse, but the colt’s lack of racing talent is not because he is white. “He wasn’t suited in that short race. He’s bred to stay, so he won’t get warm until he gets over more ground,” he said. Page believes after studying photos of The Tetrarch that the brilliant racehorse, and influential sire, was white, with his coat spattered with the characteristic oblong dark patches as if someone had flicked a paint-laden brush in his direction. “I have no doubt he is white. It’s rare to find a pure white, they usually have some dark pigment on their skins like he did, which seems to develop as they get older. It’s just that in those days, the officials didn’t recognised The Tetrarch’s colour as white, and he was registered as grey,” Page said. Without being bogged down with a detailed, technical study of pedigrees, in simple terms multiple doses of The Tetrarch appear in the pedigrees of Page’s white horses through the influence of his famous daughter Mumtaz Mahal,
ALL IN THE FAMILY: Fred Hanson holds Glacial’s great, great granddaughter Like A Gambler (right) while Brendan Page’s daughter, Brenda, poses with Like A Gambler’s white sabino colt. Like A Gambler’s sabino yearling filly is at left.
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who is the granddam of the great sire Nasrullah. She also appears prominently in the pedigree of Northern Dancer’s granddam, the equally dominant Almahmoud, through her sire Mahmoud, like Nasruallah, also a grandson of Mumtaz Mahal. The Bride has quadruple crosses of Hyperion (and his dam Selene) blood. Hyperion is best known in Australia as the grandsire of the great Star Kingdom, the grandsire of The Bride’s sire Star Shower. There is no trace of The Tetrarch in The Bride’s pedigree, giving credence to the theory that there are two distinct bloodlines carrying this white gene. Zabeel also has the cross of both bloodlines. His dam is by Nureyev, one of Northern Dancer’s best sons. Northern Dancer, who has crosses of Selene and The Tetrarch in his pedigree, is one of the reasons so many of the modern-day thoroughbreds have so much white splashed all over their chestnut, brown and bay bodies. Such is the influence of Northern Dancer, we should stand by for more unusually coloured racehorses. A study of photos of Northern Dancer and paintings of his direct sire-line ancestor, the Darley Arabian, show a distinct similarity – both are richly coloured with three white shocks and a white
CURIOSITY: Seymour breeder and trainer Brendan Page stands proudly with his lightly raced three-year-old colt High Rail Curious, a fifth-generation white thoroughbred.
SPOOKY: This overo white yearling filly, by Highrail Danehill from Like A Gambler, is headed for the racetrack with Brendan Page.
blaze. Another Australian white horse who caused a stir around the same time The Bride appeared is a mare suitably named Our White Lady (Wh m 1991, Brazen Bay-Moncharm, by Charlton), who was exported to North America in 1998. Our White Lady, who was trained by Noel Doyle on the Gold Coast, was barred from training during the normal dawn hours because she was considered dangerous – her white coat frightened other horses as she galloped like a ghost through the morning gloom. Her only start was a distant last (beaten 53 lengths!) in a 1300m maiden at Eagle Farm in 1994. Page has had a similar trainingtrack incident with High Rail Curious. “Sometimes I jog him in a cart, and one morning he was trotting around the sand track at Seymour, when a horse and rider spooked at seeing him, and a girl was dumped on the track. She wasn’t impressed,” he said. A study of Our White Lady’s
pedigree shows she is by a Star Kingdom (Hyperion) line stallion, but it is her granddam Comme Un Éclair that is interesting. Comme Un Éclair is by Star Kingdom’s son Shifnal, from the mare Jean, by a son of Hyperion from a granddaughter of The Tetrarch. So here we have a triple cross of Hyperion (and Selene) and a healthy dose of The Tetrarch. When Our White Lady was three, Warner Bros. movie moguls tried to buy her. Amazingly, considering her lack of racetrack
ability, a price of $50,000 was rejected. Our White Lady now lives in luxury at Norsire Farm, Vancouver, where one of her sons, Pure White Gold (by the rare palomino thoroughbred Billionaire), a Jockey Clubregistered white thoroughbred, is standing at stud, but serving mainly non-thoroughbred show quality mares. The Bride, owned in Queensland by Elkington Park Stud, has produced only one white registered thoroughbred foal, a colt born in 2003 by Lordly Looker (B h 1988, El Gran Senor-Lifestyle, by Manifesto), a stallion riddled with the blood of Hyperion, Selene and The Tetrarch. Unfortunately, the colt, nicknamed “Spooky”, died of colic at the age of two. In 1999, a white colt was born to the mare Joyella (B m 1990, KoryoSupreme Joy, by Never In Doubt). The colt, by Piazzetta (Ch h 1983, Star Appeal-New Way, by Klairon), a brother to Star Way, hasn’t been registered to race, but he is used as a show stallion under the name Prince Of Snowden.
PHOTO BY SEAN GARNSWORTHY (GSP IMAGES)
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influence of Northern Dancer, we should stand by for more unusually coloured racehorses.
‘ Such is the
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here is little Brendan Page hasn’t done in racing. A former jockey and harness racing trainer and driver, and highly respected horse breaker, he also has the ability to talk the leg off a wooden chair. To get bailed up by him is like being cornered by a blueheeler pup. Page’s passion is horses; he’ll talk about them until not only have the cows come home, but out and back again. And he likes to win, but you get the impression at his Seymour stables, as six coloured stallions sleepily stand nose to nose in their sandy yards, that he also loves looking at them. And if you are going to look at them, they might as well be pretty as a picture. What Page has developed is unique in the world. John Singleton didn’t need to spend $270,000 to buy his white horse; he only had to ask a fellow larrikin in Brendan Page for a loan of one – for a fee, of course.
PHOTO BY SEAN GARNSWORTHY (GSP IMAGES)
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THE MATRIARCH: The white Glacial in full livery before a race at Kilmore in the 1960s. Glacial has started an unbroken line of fi ve generations of white thoroughbreds.
The third dam of his sire, Sir Tristram, is Selene’s daughter, All Moonshine. The Camina Burana filly is not the first time Zabeel has influenced the production of a white horse. His son, I Conquer, is the sire of New Zealand’s most recent racing novelty, the white filly Legally White (Wh f 2002, I Conquer-Matilda, by Hermod), who has a record of one win from nine starts on the south island. The other widely regarded source is England’s star sprinter of 100 years ago, the “spotted wonder” The Tetrarch (Gr h 1911, Roi Herode-Vahren, by Bona Vista), a registered grey but some people, including noted Victorian horseman, and lover and breeder of white thoroughbreds, Brendan Page, believe The Tetrarch’s true colour was white, or overo sabino, meaning an off-shoot of the pure white gene that is a mixture of white with colour. Page, who claims to have 21 white thoroughbreds on his
two Seymour properties, not all registered to race, but all descendants of a mare that raced in Victoria in the late 1960s, the white Glacial (Wh m 1966, Grey Marwin-Milady Fair, by Jambo). Page can probably boast the only “herd” of white thoroughbreds in the world that directly represents five unbroken generations of white, racing thoroughbreds. His white horses come via his late stallion Colourful Gambler (Wh h 1986, Khaleben from Lots Of Speed, by Live Arrow), a white son of Glacial’s son, Khaleben. The white Khaleben (1972, by Khalif) proved himself a good racehorse, winning at Flemington before being retired to limited opportunities at stud. When the Zabeel-Carmina Burana filly sold in March, it was widely reported that the last white thoroughbred to race in Australia was the Gai Waterhouse-trained filly The Bride (Wh m 1991, Star Shower-Salomeneo, by Idomeneo), who retired a maiden after 11 starts.
suffer jibes from his fellow trainers about his “circus” horse.
‘ Page had to
’
That statement couldn’t have been further from the truth. Only last November, Page raced his colt, the aptly named High Rail Curious (Wh c 2004, Highrail Danehill-Like A Gambler, by Colourful Gambler), at Benalla, in a 1206m maiden in January 2008. The powder white colt failed to beat a runner home, and Page had to suffer jibes from his fellow trainers about his “circus” horse, but the colt’s lack of racing talent is not because he is white. “He wasn’t suited in that short race. He’s bred to stay, so he won’t get warm until he gets over more ground,” he said. Page believes after studying photos of The Tetrarch that the brilliant racehorse, and influential sire, was white, with his coat spattered with the characteristic oblong dark patches as if someone had flicked a paint-laden brush in his direction. “I have no doubt he is white. It’s rare to find a pure white, they usually have some dark pigment on their skins like he did, which seems to develop as they get older. It’s just that in those days, the officials didn’t recognised The Tetrarch’s colour as white, and he was registered as grey,” Page said. Without being bogged down with a detailed, technical study of pedigrees, in simple terms multiple doses of The Tetrarch appear in the pedigrees of Page’s white horses through the influence of his famous daughter Mumtaz Mahal,
ALL IN THE FAMILY: Fred Hanson holds Glacial’s great, great granddaughter Like A Gambler (right) while Brendan Page’s daughter, Brenda, poses with Like A Gambler’s white sabino colt. Like A Gambler’s sabino yearling filly is at left.
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who is the granddam of the great sire Nasrullah. She also appears prominently in the pedigree of Northern Dancer’s granddam, the equally dominant Almahmoud, through her sire Mahmoud, like Nasruallah, also a grandson of Mumtaz Mahal. The Bride has quadruple crosses of Hyperion (and his dam Selene) blood. Hyperion is best known in Australia as the grandsire of the great Star Kingdom, the grandsire of The Bride’s sire Star Shower. There is no trace of The Tetrarch in The Bride’s pedigree, giving credence to the theory that there are two distinct bloodlines carrying this white gene. Zabeel also has the cross of both bloodlines. His dam is by Nureyev, one of Northern Dancer’s best sons. Northern Dancer, who has crosses of Selene and The Tetrarch in his pedigree, is one of the reasons so many of the modern-day thoroughbreds have so much white splashed all over their chestnut, brown and bay bodies. Such is the influence of Northern Dancer, we should stand by for more unusually coloured racehorses. A study of photos of Northern Dancer and paintings of his direct sire-line ancestor, the Darley Arabian, show a distinct similarity – both are richly coloured with three white shocks and a white
CURIOSITY: Seymour breeder and trainer Brendan Page stands proudly with his lightly raced three-year-old colt High Rail Curious, a fifth-generation white thoroughbred.
SPOOKY: This overo white yearling filly, by Highrail Danehill from Like A Gambler, is headed for the racetrack with Brendan Page.
blaze. Another Australian white horse who caused a stir around the same time The Bride appeared is a mare suitably named Our White Lady (Wh m 1991, Brazen Bay-Moncharm, by Charlton), who was exported to North America in 1998. Our White Lady, who was trained by Noel Doyle on the Gold Coast, was barred from training during the normal dawn hours because she was considered dangerous – her white coat frightened other horses as she galloped like a ghost through the morning gloom. Her only start was a distant last (beaten 53 lengths!) in a 1300m maiden at Eagle Farm in 1994. Page has had a similar trainingtrack incident with High Rail Curious. “Sometimes I jog him in a cart, and one morning he was trotting around the sand track at Seymour, when a horse and rider spooked at seeing him, and a girl was dumped on the track. She wasn’t impressed,” he said. A study of Our White Lady’s
pedigree shows she is by a Star Kingdom (Hyperion) line stallion, but it is her granddam Comme Un Éclair that is interesting. Comme Un Éclair is by Star Kingdom’s son Shifnal, from the mare Jean, by a son of Hyperion from a granddaughter of The Tetrarch. So here we have a triple cross of Hyperion (and Selene) and a healthy dose of The Tetrarch. When Our White Lady was three, Warner Bros. movie moguls tried to buy her. Amazingly, considering her lack of racetrack
ability, a price of $50,000 was rejected. Our White Lady now lives in luxury at Norsire Farm, Vancouver, where one of her sons, Pure White Gold (by the rare palomino thoroughbred Billionaire), a Jockey Clubregistered white thoroughbred, is standing at stud, but serving mainly non-thoroughbred show quality mares. The Bride, owned in Queensland by Elkington Park Stud, has produced only one white registered thoroughbred foal, a colt born in 2003 by Lordly Looker (B h 1988, El Gran Senor-Lifestyle, by Manifesto), a stallion riddled with the blood of Hyperion, Selene and The Tetrarch. Unfortunately, the colt, nicknamed “Spooky”, died of colic at the age of two. In 1999, a white colt was born to the mare Joyella (B m 1990, KoryoSupreme Joy, by Never In Doubt). The colt, by Piazzetta (Ch h 1983, Star Appeal-New Way, by Klairon), a brother to Star Way, hasn’t been registered to race, but he is used as a show stallion under the name Prince Of Snowden.
PHOTO BY SEAN GARNSWORTHY (GSP IMAGES)
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influence of Northern Dancer, we should stand by for more unusually coloured racehorses.
‘ Such is the
’
here is little Brendan Page hasn’t done in racing. A former jockey and harness racing trainer and driver, and highly respected horse breaker, he also has the ability to talk the leg off a wooden chair. To get bailed up by him is like being cornered by a blueheeler pup. Page’s passion is horses; he’ll talk about them until not only have the cows come home, but out and back again. And he likes to win, but you get the impression at his Seymour stables, as six coloured stallions sleepily stand nose to nose in their sandy yards, that he also loves looking at them. And if you are going to look at them, they might as well be pretty as a picture. What Page has developed is unique in the world. John Singleton didn’t need to spend $270,000 to buy his white horse; he only had to ask a fellow larrikin in Brendan Page for a loan of one – for a fee, of course.
PHOTO BY SEAN GARNSWORTHY (GSP IMAGES)
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This is so interesting I have used our stallion as he is a grandson of Nureyev and all are non tobiano foals have at least two white stockings and white feet the splash in this blood line is very very strong and we hae had over 40 foals.
The coloured colt in my sig is a splash carrier
The coloured colt in my sig is a splash carrier
A coloured leaving its mark
Angrove stud breeding your racing colours
I am dyslexic it can be funny!
Angrove stud breeding your racing colours
I am dyslexic it can be funny!
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