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Hansen - white thoroughbred??? or grey??? hmmmm

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:33 pm
by Tairaterces
Look at his picture as a baby.

http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup-wi ... k-his-side


So white or grey????????

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:20 pm
by RiddleMeThis
He is 100% obviously gray. He grayed out fast, and in one shed. Heres another gray that will look very similar, but slightly darker when he is all shed out.

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Its pretty normal for a fast going gray. There is ZERO chance he is white.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:28 pm
by Jorge
From a genetic point of analysis, the Thoroughbred colt, HANSEN (2009) is of “gray” (G/g) color, not white. This is visually evidenced (phenotype) by the fact that his subjacent skin (not the hairs) is of a dark color, rather than pink, as it occurs with all white equines. See the photos henceforward.

White equines sports white hairs along with pink skin. It is important to mention that although HANSEN fashions a pink lower lip (in Spain they call that design: “bebeblanco” [white paint drinker]) this does not mean that he has an overall pink skin.
He is a normal “gray”. The only curious difference here is that he is “graying” out (or “whitening out”) at a very rapid pace. Such a rapid pace is not the norm for a gray, but it is not that scarce anyway. Back in the 1970s a horse named Vigors (Roan H 1973, by Grey Dawn II – Relifordie) who curiously was also named after the last name of a doctor, was perhaps more white-looking than Hansen. From a genotype point of view, Vigors was also a gray (albeit, he was registered by the misleading term “roan”), just like Hansen. Seems like Hansen’s sire, Tapit, has the tendency of throwing many gray colts and fillies that white-out at a more rapid pace.


http://www.search.com/images?q=HANSEN%2 ... 31&index=4

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/jockey-jos ... 33260.html


http://www.search.com/images?q=HANSEN%2 ... 31&index=2


http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup-wi ... k-his-side

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:30 pm
by xfactor fan
The gray comes up the bottom side of Hansen's pedigree. Are any of the dams known for producing fast graying foals?

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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:15 pm
by RiddleMeThis
xfactor fan wrote:The gray comes up the bottom side of Hansen's pedigree. Are any of the dams known for producing fast graying foals?
Tapit, Hansens sire produces a LOT of fast going grays. Its very normal for his line. We talked about this in another gray thread.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:23 pm
by xfactor fan
I meant from the bottom side of Tapit's pedigree. Just wondering if Tapit himself has the gray + rapid gene, or if this goes back a couple of generations.